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    We have lots of information available to us as OC'ers. I was toying with the idea of putting up a web site. I'm not great on making it pretty, but I have a computer that's already dedicated to a web server running Apache. Also has FTP, and all the trimmings. I host a comics page (yes, I'm addicted to FoxTrot and Dilbert.) Would be a breeze to add another page, even a dedicated domain name.

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    I'd be game. Are you thinking of reserving a DNS name? I'm sure we could get the dough to pay for that. I'd be willing to help you out if needed. I ain't no webmaster, but I can write code.

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    I, too, can write some code. I've been a webmaster before, but that's been a few years back, and java, flash, and whatnot are a little beyond me. What I am good at, though, is proofreading.

    I'm probably not all that useful to the project, but I'm more than willing to lend a hand however I can. And I'll certainly try to help get the word out about it.

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    I've self-taught HTML to a beginner's level, so I can help a bit there.

    Otherwise, I don't mind just updating the list we have going here.
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    Excellent! I have the server, it has Apache, MySQL, PERL, PHP, FTP already installed and working. Have to come up with a domain name. There is PNWOpenCarry, but that's Lonnie's and I haven't heard from him, so do not want to take that from him. Could always do a WCDL and shape it after VCDL.
    I'll cover the first years expenses for the domain names, and handle the mx, a and cname entries. Make sure the server is operating, etc.
    All that's needed is what domain name(s) we should choose.

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    Washington Civil Defense League... I'm liking the sound of that already.

    Now we sound all.. hardcore? haha.

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    G27 wrote:
    Washington Civil Defense League... I'm liking the sound of that already.

    Now we sound all.. hardcore? haha.
    The only thing with that is it's not OC specific. I'm not sure of gregma's original intent, a WA OC site or a WA RKBA site. I agree, WCDL sounds cool, also sounds like a WA Commercial Driver's License. Ah well.

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    wcdl.com is out. It's "owned" by a parking company and they want almost $5000 for the DNS. wcdl.org and wcdl.net are taken although not being used.

    wacdl is taken by the Wisconsin Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.



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    warkba.* (WA RKBA)
    cowdl.* (Citizen of WA DL)
    wacdl.[cc,info,us]
    wcdl.[cc,info,us]

    I'm sure there are others.

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    G27 wrote:
    Washington Civil Defense League... I'm liking the sound of that already.

    Now we sound all.. hardcore? haha.
    Honestly, I'm not too big on making it a league, group, organization, or anything of the sort. Our state constitution, when affirming the RKBA, specifically disallows organizations of an armed militia and "defense league" is really walking a fine line there.

    Perhaps something as simple as WALC or WALK, as in WAshingtonians for Legal Carry (or Karry, to make it easier to say properly as an acronym). That acronym even lends itself to great press: "we're just going for a WALK."
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    good point JAC. The bad news is WALK and WALC names are all registered, walc.cc being the only one available.



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    wrkba.* is available as well.

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    So will this be about all carry in WA or just OC? Might have some bearing on the domain name chosen.
    "The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good" - George Washington
    "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." - Mahatma Gandhi

    As always, insert standard IANAL disclaimer here.

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    Um, isn't that what opencarry.org is for?

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    I personally think it should be about all legal carry and the promotion thereof, since CC'ers and OC'ers are pretty much the same ilk. Heck, some OC'ers are forced by circumstance to CC sometimes (see my post about such here).

    Many stores that ban weapons don't just ban OC, they want to ban CC too, they just have a hard time enforcing it, due to the fact it's concealed. I think the site should be about promoting legal carry of firearms, whether open or concealed, by law-abiding citizens.

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    xpun8 wrote:
    good point JAC. The bad news is WALK and WALC names are all registered, walc.cc being the only one available.

    too bad it couldn't be WALC.OC :P

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    Northwest Citizens Defense League. Again, a lot of effort is coming from Washingtonians, but we can't forget about the Oregonians who also face threats down there too (due to the wording of their CHL laws being possible places of abuse against open carriers).

    The PNWOpenCarry list has been quite dormant due to my own inability to keep up with life issues. Approaching having to move for a second time in six months, a job that's working me 50 hours a week. No more graveyard. The list will still exist or would be folded.

    If you still need a spokesman, I'll gladly volunteer due to my specialties.

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    xpun8 wrote:
    wrkba.* is available as well.
    wsrkba might be better.

    Or, use the existing USA States domain name hierarchy:

    rkba.wa.us

    That extends naturally to all the other states if you want to spread.

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    John,

    rkba.wa.us is a good suggestion, but aren't STATE.us domains a bit hard to register?

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    Lonnie,

    You've got the PNWOpenCarry mailing list going, but there isn't an actual domain name associated with it. Right now that name is available in all the usual top-level domains (.com, .net, .org, .us.)

    I'm not sure if such a name really works for what we're talking about here (since the emphasis seems to have morphed into more of a state or regional 2nd Amendment thing rather than just open carry), but in any case it might be a good idea to register those names just to preempt someone else getting them.

    My company is a domain registrar, so I can get us wholesale rates, plus I'd be willing to cover one of them myself.

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    kparker wrote:
    rkba.wa.us is a good suggestion, but aren't STATE.us domains a bit hard to register?
    Dunno, I've never tried as I've never had reason to want a very-state-specific domain name. I don't think there is any policy restricting them to "official" use, and even if there were look how well the use restrictions are being followed in the other top-level domains (apart from .gov and . edu)... .tv is supposed to be sites having something to do with Tuvalu!

    Can't hurt to try!

    ...I am inquiring of the registrar.

    Doesn't look too hard, just convoluted.

    http://www.nic.us/register/locality.html


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    Doesn't look too hard, just convoluted.
    I'd suggest you wait until you talk to the Delegated Manager for wa.us before you conclude that.

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    kparker wrote:
    Doesn't look too hard, just convoluted.
    I'd suggest you wait until you talk to the Delegated Manager for wa.us before you conclude that.


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    kparker wrote:
    rkba.wa.us is a good suggestion, but aren't STATE.us domains a bit hard to register?
    Apparently yes. From the registrar:

    >> The US Department of Commerce has only allowed us to register
    >> fourth level domain names beginning with "borough", "ci." for
    >> city, "co." for county, "twp." or "town" for township, or "vil."
    >> for village. If you wish to register a new .US Domain Name in the
    >> fourth level please re-send your request including the appropriate
    >> ci., co. etc.
    >
    >Sorry I wasn't clear; I was hoping for a third-level (state-level)
    >domain.
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    >So in other words, a state-level organization cannot register a
    >third-level domain name like (just for argument's sake)
    >unitedway.wa.us ?

    You are correct. We are not able to process new 3rd level locality domain
    names at this time.

    If/when the DOC (department of commerce) decides to allow new 3rd level .US
    locality domains, the domain example that you have given would not be
    acceptable either as it does not represent a locality such as, sterling.va.us
    or los-angeles.ca.us.

    I cannot say if the DOC will ever allow non-locality based 3rd level .US domain
    names.
    Sooo...

    rkba.us or rkba.org are two good possibilities, but as you open yourself to coordinating nationally with those names you'd probably have to be prepared for delegating state/regional subsites (e.g. you'd maintain wa.rkba.us or nw.rkba.us, somebody else would get delegated DNS for va.rkba.us, etc.) and that may be more than you want to deal with.

    pnw-rkba.org?

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    How about?

    pro-carry.org

    or

    pro-carry.net

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