Taclead
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Last Friday 10 Aug, I was taking my daughter to luch in downtown Akron while OCing. We had just left her place of work (a law office, where I had picked up a few cards from attorneys just in case) and entered a non-posted sub shop on the first floor of her building.
As soon as I walked in I noticed apolice luitenant seated on my right. While standing in line he approached me and asked where I worked. I didn't really understand and asked him to clarify. He said he noticed the gun and wondered where I worked. I explained I was not a LEO and carried for personal protection. He suggested that it was illegal for me to carry in that manner and asked if I had any ID. I told him what I was doing was perfectly legal and that as far as ID, while I did have it, I did not wish to provide it to him. He suggested my daughter and I go ahead and order and we would talk later. While we waited to order he went outside and called a Sgt from the training department. Once we received our food and sat down he agian approached me and asked if I could step outside the shop with him.
He introduced the training Sgt as well as himself and stated that he was aware (the Sgt must have filled him in) that OC was legal but informed me that Akron still had a law (ordinance) on the books that prohibited OC. I informed him that HR347 passed last Nov and that went into effect in Mar/Apr preempted all locality laws. The training Sgt agreed but the Lt said because the law was still on the books in order to get the law repealed they may have to charge someone (arrest). I informed him thatmy lawyers were right upstairs if he wanted to take that route. He seemed reluctant to go that route and asked for ID. Again I told him that unless I was in a vehicle, I was not required to show ID. The training Sgt backed me up on this point as well.
The Lt went on about OC and scaring the sheeple and tried to explain about the no-gun stickers on places of business (both the Sgt and I informed him nearly simultaneously, that the place I had entered was not posted). In the end I returned to the sub shop and finished my lunch without incident.
Later the Sgt contacted me while heading back upstairs that he was going to use this instance and a training opportunity. He would issue a bulletin and ensure officers were reminded at roll-call that OC is legal in Ohio. At the same time, because I had told them I had a VA CC permit with Ohio reciprocity, he continued to suggest I carry CC and that if I persisted in OC that I may have more encounters with police.
I felt this encounter, although it seemed to start off bad, went very well. Thanfully the training Sgt was well aware of Ohio gun laws and privately expressed to me he was pro 2A and that I was fully within the law, he supported me, and that I carried and acted responsibly during the encounter.
Last Friday 10 Aug, I was taking my daughter to luch in downtown Akron while OCing. We had just left her place of work (a law office, where I had picked up a few cards from attorneys just in case) and entered a non-posted sub shop on the first floor of her building.
As soon as I walked in I noticed apolice luitenant seated on my right. While standing in line he approached me and asked where I worked. I didn't really understand and asked him to clarify. He said he noticed the gun and wondered where I worked. I explained I was not a LEO and carried for personal protection. He suggested that it was illegal for me to carry in that manner and asked if I had any ID. I told him what I was doing was perfectly legal and that as far as ID, while I did have it, I did not wish to provide it to him. He suggested my daughter and I go ahead and order and we would talk later. While we waited to order he went outside and called a Sgt from the training department. Once we received our food and sat down he agian approached me and asked if I could step outside the shop with him.
He introduced the training Sgt as well as himself and stated that he was aware (the Sgt must have filled him in) that OC was legal but informed me that Akron still had a law (ordinance) on the books that prohibited OC. I informed him that HR347 passed last Nov and that went into effect in Mar/Apr preempted all locality laws. The training Sgt agreed but the Lt said because the law was still on the books in order to get the law repealed they may have to charge someone (arrest). I informed him thatmy lawyers were right upstairs if he wanted to take that route. He seemed reluctant to go that route and asked for ID. Again I told him that unless I was in a vehicle, I was not required to show ID. The training Sgt backed me up on this point as well.
The Lt went on about OC and scaring the sheeple and tried to explain about the no-gun stickers on places of business (both the Sgt and I informed him nearly simultaneously, that the place I had entered was not posted). In the end I returned to the sub shop and finished my lunch without incident.
Later the Sgt contacted me while heading back upstairs that he was going to use this instance and a training opportunity. He would issue a bulletin and ensure officers were reminded at roll-call that OC is legal in Ohio. At the same time, because I had told them I had a VA CC permit with Ohio reciprocity, he continued to suggest I carry CC and that if I persisted in OC that I may have more encounters with police.
I felt this encounter, although it seemed to start off bad, went very well. Thanfully the training Sgt was well aware of Ohio gun laws and privately expressed to me he was pro 2A and that I was fully within the law, he supported me, and that I carried and acted responsibly during the encounter.