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Feds Train Clergy To "Quell Dissent" (turn in your guns) During Martial Law

44Brent

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Particle wrote:
Is this article you presented supposed to be your view (agreeing with the author--not suggesting you wrote it) or a slice of some of the insane, extremist, morally wrong ideas floating around?

I hardly am a fan of dictatorship.

Would it surprpise you to know that the "Family Security Matters" organization includes a former CIA Directory, James Woolsey on its board of directors?
Would it surprise you a few people are warning thatanother 9-11 style terrorist attack is imminent?
 

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Did you ever why President Bush is a strong proponent of sending federal money to churches for "faith based" programs? I think I finally figured it out: churches that take money from the government are now beholden to the government and will perform actions that enable them to continue receiving money from the government.

Anyway, here's a study that discusses faith based programs.

http://www.hudsonfaithincommunities.org/articles/fruitful_collab.pdf
 

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I ran across this, today:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/baldwin2.html

The more I read about this, the creepier it feels.

Full text from Lew Rockwell's website:
[align=center][font="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"][font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]America's Pastors: Preachers of Truth or PromotersofTyranny?[/font][/font]
[align=center][font="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"][font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]by Chuck Baldwin
by Chuck Baldwin[/font]
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[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]Once again, the burden of responsibility to help maintain America's liberty rests upon the shoulders of the men in the pulpits. That should not surprise us, because it has always been this way. Part of what made America great was old-fashioned, tell-it-like-it-is, no-nonsense preaching. Most of what we hear today is a bunch of mealy-mouthed, pussyfooting, ear-tickling, don't-offend-anyone preaching, which has largely contributed to America's current slippery slope into the sewer. But if you thought it could not get any worse, guess again.[/font][/align]
[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]A startling television news report from Shreveport, Louisiana has revealed a sinister plot hatched deep inside the diabolical brain cells of the Bush administration to use America's pulpits as promoters of tyranny. That is a strong statement, I know. But it is true.[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]According to KSLA television in Shreveport, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) intends to use America's preachers to help pave the way for martial law in the event of another terrorist attack upon the United States.[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]The KSLA report begins, "Could martial law ever become a reality in America? Some fear any nuclear, biological or chemical attack on U.S. soil might trigger just that. KSLA 12 has discovered that the clergy would help the government with potentially their biggest problem: Us."[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]The report continued by saying, "[G]un confiscation is exactly what happened during the state of emergency following Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, along with forced relocation. U.S. Troops also arrived, something far easier to do now, thanks to last year's elimination of the 1878 Posse Comitatus act, which had forbid regular U.S. Army troops from policing on American soil.[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]"If martial law were enacted here at home, like depicted in the movie, The Siege, easing public fears and quelling dissent would be critical. And that's exactly what the 'Clergy Response Team' helped accomplish in the wake of Katrina."[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]The report went on to say: "[C]lergy response teams would walk a tight-rope during martial law between the demands of the government on the one side, versus the wishes of the public on the other. 'In a lot of cases, these clergy would already be known in the neighborhoods in which they're helping to diffuse that situation,' assured Sandy Davis. He serves as the director of the Caddo-Bossier Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness.[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]"For the clergy team, one of the biggest tools that they will have in helping calm the public down or to obey the law is the bible itself, specifically Romans 13."[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]Dear Reader, are you getting this?[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]In order to convince American citizens to surrender their firearms to the government during a time of martial law, DHS is enlisting the assistance of America's pastors. According to the DHS, my job as a church pastor, is to tell my congregation that, according to Romans 13, they must surrender their firearms when the government asks them to do so.[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]Of course, faithful readers of this column know that I have already addressed the Romans 13 question.[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]For those who are ignorant of Romans 13, let me address the issue bluntly: According to Romans 13, every citizen is only bound to obey his or her governing official to the degree that the governing official does not violate the duty of the citizen to obey the "higher powers" which, for Americans, are God and the U.S. Constitution. In other words, no Christian can be ordered to disobey God, and no American citizen can be ordered to disobey the U.S. Constitution. Properly understood, Romans 13 teaches that each and every governing official (including the President of the United States and all those under him) must submit to the U.S. Constitution.[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]Article VI, Paragraph 3 of the U.S. Constitution states, "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution."[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]So, what does the Constitution say regarding the disarmament of American citizens? The Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution could not be clearer: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]Did you get that? "[T]he right of the people to keep and bear Arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED." [Emphasis added][/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]Therefore, any attempt to disarm the American people must be viewed as an act of tyranny and must be resisted.[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]The right to keep and bear arms is rooted deep in American history. I remind readers that it was the attempted gun confiscation of the colonists' arms, which had been cached at Concord, Massachusetts, that directly precipitated the beginning of America's fight for independence.[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]America's founders were clear on this subject. Our first President, George Washington, called our firearms "the people's liberty teeth." Our third President and author of the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson, said, "No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government."[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]America's founders spoke unanimously on the subject. Patrick Henry said, "The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun." Samuel Adams said, "The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]And what did the Lord Jesus Christ tell His followers on this subject? Jesus said in Luke 11:21, "When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace." Did you see that? Jesus said that in order for a man's goods to be "in peace" it was necessary that he be ARMED. Now, I don't know about you, but I will take the word of Jesus over the word of a DHS official anytime.[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]Furthermore, Jesus told his disciples in Luke 22:36, "[H]e that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]Upon hearing the words of Jesus, Simon Peter responded by saying, "Lord, behold, here are two swords." (vs. 38) That means at least two of Jesus' disciples were armed with swords (the 1st Century equivalent of a modern handgun, something used for personal protection), and Jesus did not rebuke them or ask them to surrender their swords. He merely said, "It is enough."[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]I realize that after Simon Peter used his sword to cut off the ear of the man as soldiers came to arrest Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane, Jesus told him to "put up thy sword." But notice, He did not tell him to "give up" his sword; he merely told him it was not time to use it, because it was in the plan and providence of God that Jesus be taken to Pilate, that He might be crucified for our sins.[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]Don't tell me that the Bible teaches pacifism, because it doesn't. I am a Christian, and I am a pastor. And I agree with Charlton Heston who said that they could have his guns "over my cold, dead hands." If DHS believes that I will ask my congregation to give up their firearms, they are grossly mistaken.[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]It also needs to be pointed out that, apparently, DHS must already be planning to declare martial law in the United States or else this kind of advanced strategy would not even be necessary. Why would they already be asking pastors to be prepared to request their church members give up their guns if they did not intend to declare martial law?[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]Now, what every single church-going Christian in America should immediately find out for themselves is, What does my pastor intend to do? Will he ask me to surrender my guns, or not? I highly encourage every reader who currently attends church to ask your pastor this question RIGHT NOW.[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]Of course, the next question Christians need to ask themselves is, What will I do if my pastor says he would ask me to surrender my guns to the government? I suggest that every church member in America settle this matter right now. And if you discover that your pastor would indeed ask you to surrender your guns (or equivocate by saying he would have to "pray about it") if asked to do so, you should immediately leave that church and find a pastor who believes the Bible and supports the U.S. Constitution. Furthermore, if you do not currently own a firearm, you might want to heed the words of Jesus and go buy one.[/font]

[font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]So, once again, the burden of responsibility to help maintain America's liberty rests upon the shoulders of the men in the pulpits. Will we be preachers of truth or promoters of tyranny?[/font]







[align=right][font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]August 23, 2007[/font][/align]
[align=left]Chuck Baldwin [send him mail] is a talkshow host and pastor. Here is his website.[/align]
[align=left][font="Times New Roman, Times, serif"]Copyright © 2007 Chuck Baldwin [/font][/align]
 

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Makes ya wonder eh??
 

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When I first heard about the faith based programs I thought here we go...

give welfare to the churches and the churches will spew government propaganda.

44Brent wrote:
Did you ever why President Bush is a strong proponent of sending federal money to churches for "faith based" programs? I think I finally figured it out: churches that take money from the government are now beholden to the government and will perform actions that enable them to continue receiving money from the government.

Anyway, here's a study that discusses faith based programs.

http://www.hudsonfaithincommunities.org/articles/fruitful_collab.pdf
 
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