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While i cant recall the exact passages and there markers, I really do think the Quran is the "Muslim book of jihad". There are many passages telling muslimites to kill the infidels and non bleivers.
The bible has similar passages:
Deuteronomy 17:2-5
If there be found among you, within any of they gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD they God, in transgressing his covenant; And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true,
and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto they gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
2 Chronicles 15:12-13
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
Both of these passages don't just suggest, but
command that non-believers be put to death.
WHen the reality is, the quran is the basis of that religon and it preaches nothing but violence agaisnt non believers, Muslimism is a religon that was/is based around that book.
Christianity is based around the bible which is every bit as violent and intolerant. I can quote more verses than you can shake a stick at.
I dont want to come across as racicist/religionist but from what i have read of the quran i can not trust these people.
I don't want to come across and racist/religionist, but from what I have read of the Bible, I can not trust these people.
I don't want to come across as bigoted, but from what I have read of the NRA, I can not trust these people.
That flawed logic works for any group you choose to persecute.
Yea the first half the bible is the cristian guide to stoning everyone, but that is not widly considered the basis for our beliefs. THe new testament is the basis for christianity, and it does not preach, condone or want in any way shape or form any violence or jihad against any non believer. Jesus told us, only those who are sinless can cast the first stone... No one was able to throw a stone. and that is the basis for our religion..
I find it amusing how many people quote the scripture that will suit their needs, then conveniently throw away the rest. Let's just, for the sake of convenience, throw out the Old Testament (even though it's the basis of Christianity, and comprises the first half of the King James Bible). Please explain this quote from the new testament:
Romans 1 :29-32
Those filled with unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, hate for god, despite, proud, boasters, inventions of evil things, disobedience to parents, without understanding, covenant breakers, unnatural affection, implacable or unmerciful nature: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death.
To say that the New Testament does not preach or condone violence is laughable. Have you actually
read the New Testament? There's a reason they call people who talk about the bible "preachers".
Ive met some nice muslims, especialy at college, watched as they all needed police escort around the campus during 9/11, I would love to believe that there a some peace minded non jihadits in that religion here in the united states, but untill they stop using the quran for the basis of there misguided religion I cant trust them.
I've met some nice Christians. I would love to believe that there are some peace minded non-stone throwers in that religion here in the United States, but until they stop using the bible for the basis of their misguided religion, I can't trust them.
I guess i wont be satisfied till i see a group of the mystical non jihadist muslims openly and vehomently take a stand against the others. SO far these unicorns havnt done anything that has garnerd any attention or is only a token jesture.
I guess I won't be satisfied 'til I see a group of the mystical non-violent gun rights activists openly and vehemently take a stand against gun violence. So far these unicorns haven't done anything that has garnered any attention, or is only a token gesture.
Nobody has to prove that they are not guilty or that they pose you no threat. It is the job of the accuser to prove that a person is guilty or that they do pose a threat. I shouldn't have to stand up and denounce every evil that takes place for people to realize that I'm not an evil person.