sydcomebak
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I line in Scranton just South of Throop and I have been CCing for the past year (yes, I have a LtCF). I've just recently started carrying my Glock19 in OC - This is my story...
One of my favourite places to satisfy the rumbly in the tumbly is a pizza place on the Boulevard. The owner and his family are great people, I've really come to like them a lot. On this particular first day of OC, I stopped in for a late lunch.
I have gotten in the unconscious habit of parking myself in the corner table of eateries facing the door. In this establishment, this left my right side open to the public eye. I didn't notice any weird looks or anything, and the visit seemed uneventful.
Today I went back for a Dinner visit. The owner saw me enter the lot with my car and met meoutside the front door. He told me that the last time I visited, he received complaints that I was carrying a gun in the resteraunt... kids were present... blah blah... Would I mind leaving my gun in the car?
We talked. I didn't really want to get into a legal rights / moral obligation arguement at the door. I looked distressed, looked at my car a lot, and asked him if he was asking me not to carry inside at all, or whether he was asking me to keep it concealed if I did?He seemed to prefer the former, and I finally gave in. I really didn't like it. Thoughts were going through my head about how bad the neighborhood is, how guilty I would feel if something had occurred and I had given in. etc etc. I also had thoughts though about how I liked this guy, and if my OCing was going to cost him business, that I didn't really have the right. When I asked the owner about CC vs no carry, I also mentioned that I might just have to get my orders to-go from then on. That may end up being the case. Note: He was REALLY nice about it. I could tell that he didn't feel right asking, and that he'd already thought a lot on this before coming to me. I felt bad for him.
Any suggestions? I've been reading the legal statutes for people arguing OC with LEOs, but that really isn't the issue here. I'd like to convince him, but I can't justify him losing business over it. If it was his house and he asked me to not bring in a gun, that I wouldn't take issue, but this is a public area with a drug house a block over and armed bank robberies a few times a month to pay for addictions.It's only a matter of time beforesomeone in my circle is affected, and I want to make damned sure that ifI'm there, I can prevent anyharm.
-Dave in Scranton
I line in Scranton just South of Throop and I have been CCing for the past year (yes, I have a LtCF). I've just recently started carrying my Glock19 in OC - This is my story...
One of my favourite places to satisfy the rumbly in the tumbly is a pizza place on the Boulevard. The owner and his family are great people, I've really come to like them a lot. On this particular first day of OC, I stopped in for a late lunch.
I have gotten in the unconscious habit of parking myself in the corner table of eateries facing the door. In this establishment, this left my right side open to the public eye. I didn't notice any weird looks or anything, and the visit seemed uneventful.
Today I went back for a Dinner visit. The owner saw me enter the lot with my car and met meoutside the front door. He told me that the last time I visited, he received complaints that I was carrying a gun in the resteraunt... kids were present... blah blah... Would I mind leaving my gun in the car?
We talked. I didn't really want to get into a legal rights / moral obligation arguement at the door. I looked distressed, looked at my car a lot, and asked him if he was asking me not to carry inside at all, or whether he was asking me to keep it concealed if I did?He seemed to prefer the former, and I finally gave in. I really didn't like it. Thoughts were going through my head about how bad the neighborhood is, how guilty I would feel if something had occurred and I had given in. etc etc. I also had thoughts though about how I liked this guy, and if my OCing was going to cost him business, that I didn't really have the right. When I asked the owner about CC vs no carry, I also mentioned that I might just have to get my orders to-go from then on. That may end up being the case. Note: He was REALLY nice about it. I could tell that he didn't feel right asking, and that he'd already thought a lot on this before coming to me. I felt bad for him.
Any suggestions? I've been reading the legal statutes for people arguing OC with LEOs, but that really isn't the issue here. I'd like to convince him, but I can't justify him losing business over it. If it was his house and he asked me to not bring in a gun, that I wouldn't take issue, but this is a public area with a drug house a block over and armed bank robberies a few times a month to pay for addictions.It's only a matter of time beforesomeone in my circle is affected, and I want to make damned sure that ifI'm there, I can prevent anyharm.
-Dave in Scranton