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Thread: IHOP asked to take gun to car, no GB sign.

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    (I posted this on OFCC forums thought I'd relate it here)

    Went in the other night, at Ridge/Marburg area local IHOP, Sunday Morning about 330 am, they now have a 'rent a cop' (no Offense to you guys that do security, just a little tounge in cheek) in there, now I have been in here a few times CC and never got noticed, but since there is no gunbuster sign posted I figured no problem. Ok before you roast me I was dressed in Black pants and black dress shirt an tie and decided to leave my shirt tucked in my pants and open carry as it's legal in ohio...looking almost like a security guy myself , oh wait did I mention I just came off a corporate security type GIG that night. Well little problem.... Got to the table friends were at the young security dude comes over asks if I am a LEO... I said No, he said guns aint allowed in here and asked if I would take an put my gun in the car, so no problem I immediatly did. lol. But I was nice and he was nice so I took an threw it back in the car... Finished my meal an went home. So here all these people that are walking around with baggy clothes and jackets and you could never know, but wow a guy who looks like he is legit...gets the sorry we don't want your legal and properly holstered sidearm here. lol

    So moral of the story..........
    A- CONCEALED MEANS CONCEALED (I should have covered up)
    B- If a place has to have a armed private security guy standing around reading the paper maybe we should eat someplace else.
    C- Maybe I need a to wear the Jacket with Security On it inside... as a cover garment.
    D- Don't Do that Again!

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    I wanted to test the Open Carry rights, cause I felt I should have been not hassled, and been able to exercise my rights. they don't have a gb sign, but as soon as I was asked to remove I did, so I complied with the intent of the law, in ohio when asked you must or can be charged with something.
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    Was the guard armed? (Hi Cable Guy!) As I said at OFCC, wouldn't have been prudent or productive to discuss/argue with them over this at 0330 hrs., what with all the, um, social club members that were doubtless hanging in there after their sock hops and such let out.

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    Nope I immediatly said ok no problem, after eating I aked him he said it was posted and I said oh? wheres the signs? He said On the back door of the building where employees come in. (I didnt go look but ok, had no problem I was willing to comply with the request.) And yea he was armed...I did make a point to look.
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    IHOP is pro gun.. you should call corporate and file a comment/complaint

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    Sorry for the bump, but I have a problem with this thread. First of all, the guard was wrong. If only the employee entrance is posted, those patronizing the place would have no idea and could all be CC'ing. Once asked, then yes, failure to comply would mean a misdemeanor in Ohio.

    Being asked to lock up your gun does NOT--I repeat, does NOT--make the lesson "concealed means concealed." I don't even grasp how one draws that conclusion considering concealed wasn't even a factor of the story. If anything, I think it makes a point FOR open carry. If we don't let our countrymen know that good guys are armed as well, they will continue to discriminate against or prejudge us based on objects on our person.

    Saying that an armed guard on site is indication that you should eat someplace else is not only erroneous, it is potentially completely backwards. It would be like saying that if a citizen felt the need to carry there, maybe you should go elsewhere. Good guy armament is about preparedness and deterence. This is an IHOP we're talking about, not a national bank. An armed guard means the coward looking for a quick score on a soft target will visit the 24 hr joint down the road that doesn't have any sign of potential retaliation/resistance. Meaning it WOULD be safer to eat at than one without a guard (had he not disarmed the populace I mean).

    Finally, I wasn't there, so maybe I'm only talking about a whopping party of just your buddies, but no way should anybody at this point lock up the gun and go BACK INSIDE. Announcing you're disarmed, advertising where a loaded gun is available... your choice. As the one joke sign says, "You are NOT a valued customer. We just want your money." No guns equals no money. Don't patronize their state-backed, feel-good discrimination against law-abiding citizens.

    Oh, and if IHOP is nationally pro-gun, then yes, letting corporate know is a great idea. MANY rogue local managers have been overturned by similar efforts. Even if they're not, you probably should still climb the ladder simply because you were singled out as the place was not in compliance with the law while they've hired somebody to enforce it just the same.

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    :?Why?because several idiots have tried to rob Casinos wearing security uniforms/jackets



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    My take on the sign on the back door is just what it means. It's an employee enterance so... No Firearms for Employees.

    Many company's have no employee firearms regulations. I would check with corporate, and make sure the sign was only meant for employees, not their customers. If that's what it was for then corporate needs to educate the manager and the security.

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    Lthrnck wrote:
    My take on the sign on the back door is just what it means. It's an employee enterance so... No Firearms for Employees.

    Many company's have no employee firearms regulations. I would check with corporate, and make sure the sign was only meant for employees, not their customers. If that's what it was for then corporate needs to educate the manager and the security.
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    That's what I thought as soon as I read the story.

    IF it's a valid sign for patrons it needs to be on the front door and not the back door. If this is the case they need to start to have all patrons go thru the back door or put a sign up on the front door.

    IHOPwill not do this since they are a pro-gun organisation.

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