tarzan1888
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HankT wrote:
Shoot him in the leg, and then while he is distracted, disarm him. :celebrate
HankT wrote:
Shoot him in the leg, and then while he is distracted, disarm him. :celebrate
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Defending yourself against an unarmed attacker.
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PavePusher
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That's it, this thread has gotten totally out of hand...
That's it, this thread has gotten totally out of hand...
tarzan1888
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PavePusher wrote:
PavePusher wrote:
Ya-Think?
FightingGlock19
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HankT wrote:
HankT wrote:
why not? Grandma's just as capable as taking you out as a shitbag criminalPT111 wrote:
Never shoot a man who has no arms. Never.
Give up the woman. Take a beat down if you must.
But if you shoot a man who has no arms you will be verysorry.
Demarest
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Saying that your assailant has to be armed is just another way for the state to punish you, the victim, for turning to a gun instead of to the state. It lets the good guys know ahead of time than context and circumstance don't enter into it.
What they fail to realize is that the person IS armed. Not because they have a thick skull or big hands (though these are true too) but because YOUR gun is there. If you don't take control of it at the onset of danger, they might.
Besides that, unless they are naked, how do we know that they're unarmed? We know that action is faster than reaction. We know that our assailant has expressed a willingness to overstep the line of decency and into the realm of force.
Finally, if they are truly unarmed, the very presentation of the gun will send them running. Or if they are armed, YOU have the drop now. Laws saying your assailant has to be armed are bullshit. Because what if he is unarmed and instead of running at the sight of your gun, tries to wrestle it from you? Not likely, but what if? Not that he's escalated the ecounter, you have to shoot to stop him. All the bullshit laws will see is that he ONCE was unarmed and you shot him. Bad dog! When that couldn't be further from the truth.
Saying that your assailant has to be armed is just another way for the state to punish you, the victim, for turning to a gun instead of to the state. It lets the good guys know ahead of time than context and circumstance don't enter into it.
What they fail to realize is that the person IS armed. Not because they have a thick skull or big hands (though these are true too) but because YOUR gun is there. If you don't take control of it at the onset of danger, they might.
Besides that, unless they are naked, how do we know that they're unarmed? We know that action is faster than reaction. We know that our assailant has expressed a willingness to overstep the line of decency and into the realm of force.
Finally, if they are truly unarmed, the very presentation of the gun will send them running. Or if they are armed, YOU have the drop now. Laws saying your assailant has to be armed are bullshit. Because what if he is unarmed and instead of running at the sight of your gun, tries to wrestle it from you? Not likely, but what if? Not that he's escalated the ecounter, you have to shoot to stop him. All the bullshit laws will see is that he ONCE was unarmed and you shot him. Bad dog! When that couldn't be further from the truth.
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Legally blind does not mean they can't see. I know a legally blind woman who is an author and drives her own truck to rodeos.
I think the guy simply died of embarrassment, having gotten his ass kicked by a guy with no arms that stole his girlfriend. I hear he gives great head, though.
Legally blind does not mean they can't see. I know a legally blind woman who is an author and drives her own truck to rodeos.
I think the guy simply died of embarrassment, having gotten his ass kicked by a guy with no arms that stole his girlfriend. I hear he gives great head, though.
zoom6zoom
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I know it's a serious subject, but I still can't believe no one has posted this yet:
"Come back, you coward!"
I know it's a serious subject, but I still can't believe no one has posted this yet:
"Come back, you coward!"
imperialism2024
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Demarest wrote:
Anyhow, in reference to the last paragraph, that's the importance of having judges and juries. The more that legislators try to legislate justice, the less common sense will be applied to criminal cases.
Demarest wrote:
As for your second paragraph, be careful with that, it can be a very powerful anti argument: "Well if the crazy gun-toting redneck didn't have a gun, then the attacker wouldn't have had a gun to steal so obviously the attacker wouldn't have tried to harm the crazy gun-toting redneck."
Anyhow, in reference to the last paragraph, that's the importance of having judges and juries. The more that legislators try to legislate justice, the less common sense will be applied to criminal cases.
CA_Libertarian
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HankT wrote:
HankT wrote:
It worked in Blazing Saddles...
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Listen up, numbnuts. All this "redneck" crap needs to cease. It's simply another form of racism. Being raised in the country and have more places and opportunities to shoot hardly makes a person less responsible or proficient with guns.
Listen up, numbnuts. All this "redneck" crap needs to cease. It's simply another form of racism. Being raised in the country and have more places and opportunities to shoot hardly makes a person less responsible or proficient with guns.
VegasSig
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PRACTICE. PRACTICE.PRACTICE. I have trained in SD for many years. Various martial arts, and trained with Defensive Tactics instructors (APD), Marines (L.I.N.E.), and even worked a little with Krav Magna. Just to name a few. Stay in good shape stay alert. Make your self a "Hard Target", I am 6'2 240 pounds with an athletic build. Who is a criminal going to go for? A larger, fit, alert, aware type. Or a weak, frail, unaware, individual. I am not saying you have to be a big person in stature that is only a small part of it, but be a BIG person in situational alertness, and will. I have a lot of real experince "dealing" with people in a defensive manner. There WILL be times your completly UNARMED, and you must know how to handle yourself. This forum is about open carry, which is about protecting yourself. IMHO you must know how to handle yourself unarmed as well.
PRACTICE. PRACTICE.PRACTICE. I have trained in SD for many years. Various martial arts, and trained with Defensive Tactics instructors (APD), Marines (L.I.N.E.), and even worked a little with Krav Magna. Just to name a few. Stay in good shape stay alert. Make your self a "Hard Target", I am 6'2 240 pounds with an athletic build. Who is a criminal going to go for? A larger, fit, alert, aware type. Or a weak, frail, unaware, individual. I am not saying you have to be a big person in stature that is only a small part of it, but be a BIG person in situational alertness, and will. I have a lot of real experince "dealing" with people in a defensive manner. There WILL be times your completly UNARMED, and you must know how to handle yourself. This forum is about open carry, which is about protecting yourself. IMHO you must know how to handle yourself unarmed as well.
imperialism2024
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spurrit wrote:
BTW #2, I was raised in the country and, having gone to school in New York, have experienced much of the "your opinion doesn't matter because you're just a stupid redneck." It is indeed a terrible form of racism that is allowed to persist. I was using the "crazy gun-toting redneck" phrase as a stereotype the anti's have of gun owners.
And I'll end the discussion of this right there before LW runs out of padlocks.
spurrit wrote:
BTW, I'm the one who wrote that, not Demarest
BTW #2, I was raised in the country and, having gone to school in New York, have experienced much of the "your opinion doesn't matter because you're just a stupid redneck." It is indeed a terrible form of racism that is allowed to persist. I was using the "crazy gun-toting redneck" phrase as a stereotype the anti's have of gun owners.
And I'll end the discussion of this right there before LW runs out of padlocks.
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No problem. I just get sick of once a year hunters/every 6 months shooters talking about "stupid rednecks" and their guns.
You know why we don't have the latest high tech custom gun with a hubble scope on top, shooting Hornady super supremo diamond tipped ammo? Because we can do better than those guys with less.
No problem. I just get sick of once a year hunters/every 6 months shooters talking about "stupid rednecks" and their guns.
You know why we don't have the latest high tech custom gun with a hubble scope on top, shooting Hornady super supremo diamond tipped ammo? Because we can do better than those guys with less.
AbNo
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spurrit wrote:
True story...
I was at a the Hite Hollow Range with my buddy Shayne a few weeks ago. We were over on the rifle side, putting a few rounds out with his 1940 Mosin Nagant, and some guy comes by and sets up this almost-new Savage 30-06, with a nice big scope.
We're sitting here using iron sights at the 100, using surplus Bulgarian ammo from the 60's still in the little paper package with the string that some factory worker named Olga had tied on there, and stop for a couple of minutes to talk to this Savage owner.
A few minutes of chit-chat later, Shayne and Savage decide to try each other's gun out for a minute, just for experience.
Savage had sighted his scope in for 50 yards (Yeah, I know, why scope at 50...), so they both fired at targets on the 50 line.
Savage fired off the Nagant, all five rounds, and had tight, consistant grouping.
Shayne fire off the 30-06, with its bipod and scope, and had much looser grouping.
Just to be sure, they went ahead and switched positions.
Savage was firing his telescope/rifle combo from the table, with the bipod down. Similar loose grouping as Shayne's.
Shayne fires his Nagant, standing unsupported, and once again, there is a nice, consistant grouping of 7.62 holes downrange.
I stopped being nearly as interested in scopes at that point.
spurrit wrote:
True story...
I was at a the Hite Hollow Range with my buddy Shayne a few weeks ago. We were over on the rifle side, putting a few rounds out with his 1940 Mosin Nagant, and some guy comes by and sets up this almost-new Savage 30-06, with a nice big scope.
We're sitting here using iron sights at the 100, using surplus Bulgarian ammo from the 60's still in the little paper package with the string that some factory worker named Olga had tied on there, and stop for a couple of minutes to talk to this Savage owner.
A few minutes of chit-chat later, Shayne and Savage decide to try each other's gun out for a minute, just for experience.
Savage had sighted his scope in for 50 yards (Yeah, I know, why scope at 50...), so they both fired at targets on the 50 line.
Savage fired off the Nagant, all five rounds, and had tight, consistant grouping.
Shayne fire off the 30-06, with its bipod and scope, and had much looser grouping.
Just to be sure, they went ahead and switched positions.
Savage was firing his telescope/rifle combo from the table, with the bipod down. Similar loose grouping as Shayne's.
Shayne fires his Nagant, standing unsupported, and once again, there is a nice, consistant grouping of 7.62 holes downrange.
I stopped being nearly as interested in scopes at that point.
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You have to be better than the bad guys when your life is at stake. I wouldnt back down, I would use no leathal force to subdue the opponent to the gound and call 911, depending on the situation from operator's prespective, I would let the bad guy choose his destiny. If he is not comfortable around me, I will not be comfortable around him vice versa!
asif
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You have to be better than the bad guys when your life is at stake. I wouldnt back down, I would use no leathal force to subdue the opponent to the gound and call 911, depending on the situation from operator's prespective, I would let the bad guy choose his destiny. If he is not comfortable around me, I will not be comfortable around him vice versa!
asif
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AbNo
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Well, Spurr, if you're ever in Rockingham County on a Friday, let me know in advance, and bring a scoped rifle.
You guys can go head-to-head on the rifle range.
Well, Spurr, if you're ever in Rockingham County on a Friday, let me know in advance, and bring a scoped rifle.
You guys can go head-to-head on the rifle range.
AbNo
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Then it should at least hint that in your profile.
The offer still stands, though.
Then it should at least hint that in your profile.
The offer still stands, though.