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I live in Michigan and have a Concealed Pistol License. I will be visiting California in January and I am aware that California does not recognise this permit. However, if I am interpreting this forum correctly then I am completely legal if I:
Openly carry an unloaded pistol in a belt mounted holster on my right hip exposed and in plain sight.
Openly carry a belt-mounted magazine holder containing two fully loaded magazines (10 round capacity) on my left hip exposed and in plain sight.
I can do this anywhere in the state of California except:
In the passenger compartment of a motor vehicle in which case the pistol must be unloaded and locked in a separate container other than the glove box and preferrably the trunk, and other restricted areas as noted below.
[align=left]171 b,c,d Cannot carry in any state or local public building or at any legislative meeting required to be open to the public. Cannot carry in the State Capitol, legislative offices, office of the Governor, Governor’s residence, etc.[/align]
[align=left]626.9 Cannot carry “in a place that the person knows, or reasonably should know” is within 1000 feet of a K-12 school. Cannot carry on the grounds of a university without written permission.[/align]
[align=left]36 CFR 2.4 (a) Cannot carry in a National Park. However firearms may be possessed within a temporary lodging or vehicle when unloaded and “packed, cased or stored in a manner that will prevent their ready use.”[/align]
[align=left]CCR Title 14, Div 3, Chap 1, s 4313 (a) Cannot carry in a State Park. However firearms may be possessed within temporary lodging or a vehicle when unloaded and “packed, cased, or stored in a manner that will prevent their ready use.”[/align]
[align=left]39 CFR 232.1 (l) Cannot carry on U.S. Postal Service property.[/align]
[align=left]49 CFR 1540.111 and PC 171.5 Cannot carry in “sterile areas” (areas where access is controlled by security screening) of airports.[/align]
[align=left]Local Laws: Cities and counties may have there own limits on possession or use of firearms. However these local laws cannot legally preempt State law. Contact your local government or local law enforcement agencies to determine what these limits may be.[/align]
[align=left]National Forest and BLM: On these federal lands firearms are generally permitted, if carried and used in a safe manner, and if the users comply with state and county laws. Most of these lands qualify as “unincorporated territory”, but there are some restrictions on shooting (near structures, developed areas, roads, bodies of water) so 12031(f) applies in these areas. Check with your local ranger station for any other local restrictions.[/align]
I will be specifically visiting the areas of Hollywood, Pasadena, Saratoga, and possibly San Diego. Are there any "local laws or ordinances" I should know about in these areas? It is confusing to me that local counties or cities have can have laws or ordinances that place limits on the possession or use of firearms as noted in the above "exceptions" area under "Local Laws" it states that these local laws cannot legally pre-empt state law. Then it says to contact your local government or local law enforcement agencies to determine what these limits may be. But if they can't pre-empt then why does it matter? Please let me know if this is correct in a nutshell or if I should just leave my pistol and my rights in Michigan.
Thank you,
Patrick
