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LEO 229 wrote:
Neplusultra wrote:
LEO 229 wrote:
"Ricker said the gun owners "are probably doing their cause more harm than good by raising this issue. It raises an awareness and gives people who are more rational thinkers the opportunity to go to their legislators and make their views known.""
I have similar feelings.... Anti Gun people may push to prohibit OCing.
Anyone know if they have ever tried?
I hope you can see the problem in your reasoning. If I am afraid that in excercising my right to OC I might lose my right to OC then I de facto do not have a right to OC in the first place.
Not exactly... Doing so and being casual about it.... versus making a bold statement and getting all over the news.
Eventually... someone in the Anti community hears it is not prohibited by any lawsdecides to take it to Richmond.
Big difference. Nobody says you need to be scared.... and your not prohibited from OCing.
But all it takes is for one person to start their own agenda and go forward. That is my point.
got to side with neplusultra on this one. if we don't have the ability to use the right without it getting taken away, we never had it anyway.
i think more oc will actually increase our chances of keeping the right because it will make it more commonplace and less :what:. i've already seen people calm down about it in the places that i frequent...on top of that, i've seen more and more people
start OCing!
people get uncomfortable because it's not "normal." it's not "normal" because no one does it. no one does it because it's not "normal." the only way to break this vicious cycle is to just DO IT!
doing
anything will
always create blowback, but being political about it and constantly doing nothing will get us nowhere. we've got to fight for our beliefs. the best way not to make waves it to do nothing...coincidentally, thats also the best way to accomplish
nothing. if we take the tact of the politicians in washington and do nothing so as not to anger the opposition, the opposition has ALREADY WON
how about this?!! how about we be the ones that the other side is afraid of pissing off??!! politics is mostly about compromise and the further we draw the line in the sand, the better our chances of winning will be...as long as we're willing to stick to our guns.
the gun rights movement has been incremental over the last 30 years. we've been winning. it's only because of the small steps over the last 30 years that we can do what we do today. i see no reason to stop pushing now. if the last few legislative sessions are any indication, oc does
not seem to be hurting gun rights in va...things are getting better, not worse. the wind is at our backs.
in any case, i oc for protection too...other people's opinions don't effect that.
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and i have to add this. leo 229 asked whether we want to tip off the anti-constitution people that oc is legal since they might start crusading to outlaw it. what the hell good is a law on the books if it's
only theoretical?? and what good is it if
no one knows that it's legal? all that means is that cops are going to detain you because they don't know, so until people are educated, it's de facto illegal. that's one of the reasons for open carrying. if we STOPPED OCing, then we'd go backwards since
1 - we wouldn't have the right since we'd be choosing not to exercise it
2 - we wouldn't have the right since cops would think it was illegal and detain us for it if we ever did decide to exercise it.
i just don't get where people who make this argument are coming from:question:
