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    WOW!!!! that'll get's the blood boiling.........
    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Words fail me.

    Thank you, Cato!

    Lets get this around the internet. Post it to every forum you know. We'll need people to really get this viewpoint in order to gain the numbers we'll need.

    Imagine being able to fill Capitol Square in Richmond with angry Virginians at the next gun infringement. Imagine the results when legislators look out their windows and see it.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    That's just absolutely heartbreaking. I know it's not applicable in the same way to the UK and Australia, but the old saying that the "second amendment is there to protect the first." All I can say to that is wow.

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    This was an NRA video they made like 5 years ago or so. I have a copy on VHS around here somewhere. It hasn't lost its impact since then, I see.

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    Wow, that documentary made me feel physically sick to my stomach. So many beautiful guns... and so many beautiful freedoms lost.

    And, I think I'm taking back my stance regarding the death penalty, but only for that anti wench in the video, and all the other anti's.



    Tomorrow, I'm going to shoot my entirely unnecessary SKS and Ruger Redhawk .44 Magnum. Just because I can. For now...

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    I can't waittill the Open Carry marches in Washington DC!





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    There should be a duct tape advisory on this thread! That's all I can say...

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    bump for the weekend crowd!

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    Sigh. I feel, though, that the video will be lost on most people. It struck a nerve with me because I've been talking about the necessity of guns to freedom for a long time. Yet most "sportsman" types, or the "we need serial numbers" will probably watch the video and think "so what?" Like one of the people in the video said, too many people sit by and just say, well, as long as they don't take my hunting shotgun, I don't care.

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    And the antis who view it probably smile and laugh at the former gunowners whining about their "rights". But of course, the purpose of this video isn't to convince antis, it's to warn and scare gunowners. It's also an NRA recruitment and fundraising tool, of course, but it's legitamate. This CAN happen here.

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    My eyes hurt. Anyone who tries to disarm this household will be met with force. The day that firearms are banned is the day that I become a criminal.
    "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." Robert A. Heinlein

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    imperialism2024 wrote:
    Sigh. I feel, though, that the video will be lost on most people. It struck a nerve with me because I've been talking about the necessity of guns to freedom for a long time. Yet most "sportsman" types, or the "we need serial numbers" will probably watch the video and think "so what?" Like one of the people in the video said, too many people sit by and just say, well, as long as they don't take my hunting shotgun, I don't care.
    EXACTLY what happened in UK, when we pistol shooters were hung out to dry after the Dunblane massacre in 1996! The shotgunners and riflemen refused to support us, since in their eyes, handguns had long had criminal connotations. Also,all of the shooting associations in UK are petrified to admit that guns make excellent defensive weapons. They have long made the case that they are merely sporting appurtenances,and , predictably, the antis are telling the shooters to find another sport.

    As all who post here know, the guns will not go all at once, but incrementally, if ALL gun owners do not unite against those who seek to disarm us.We also know that the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with deer hunting or clay busting.......

    TrueBrit.

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    Its already happening here in our country. In my home state we have already lost our freedom. All someone has to do is get a restraining order and the cops come seize your guns. So you have to tread on eggshells and not get anyone mad at you.You can still carry a concealed weapon if the police decide you are worthy. A line must be drawn in the sand, this far and no farther, no more compromises. The anti gun lobby never concedes anything, the pro freedom side always does.

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    TrueBit, you are correct about gunowners not supporting each other, in general liberty supporters often have problems supporting each other. A case in point in how the ACLU supports freedom of speech and privacy rights, but turn their backs on gunowners because guns are too "sinister" and the ACLU approaches liberty from a leftist direction.

    The sad irony of this video, is that while the NRA uses it to preach to us to remain unified, they long-ago turned their backs on the full-auto community, and today they work at cross purposes with non-NRA affiliated gun rights groups, because after all, full-auto weapons are not socially acceptable enough,and someof those grass roots groups are "too radical" for the mainstream NRA.

    When the NRA says to unify, what that really means is "everybody join this organization and send us money".

    Call me cynical.

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    Tomahawk wrote:
    TrueBit, you are correct about gunowners not supporting each other, in general liberty supporters often have problems supporting each other. A case in point in how the ACLU supports freedom of speech and privacy rights, but turn their backs on gunowners because guns are too "sinister" and the ACLU approaches liberty from a leftist direction.

    The sad irony of this video, is that while the NRA uses it to preach to us to remain unified, they long-ago turned their backs on the full-auto community, and today they work at cross purposes with non-NRA affiliated gun rights groups, because after all, full-auto weapons are not socially acceptable enough,and someof those grass roots groups are "too radical" for the mainstream NRA.

    When the NRA says to unify, what that really means is "everybody join this organization and send us money".

    Call me cynical.
    Just as cynical as I am

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    FAX AND email this message to BOTH of your Senators

    http://www.theorator.com/senate.html - and mean it and follow through! If we don't send them a clear and concise message to leave the 2nd Amendment alone they are going to bury it!


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    Totally AGAINST :

    (1) H. R. 2666 (Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record

    of Sale Act of 2007 )

    (2) the proposed revival of the so-called “assault weapon”

    ban ( H.R.1022 - Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement

    Protection Act of 2007 )

    (3) S. 1237 & H.R. 2074 (“Denying Firearms and Explosives to

    Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2007”)

    (4) H.R.1167 ( “No Fly, No Buy Act of 2007”)

    (5) H.R.2640 ("NICS Improvement Amendment Act of 2007")

    This is turning into an express-train of anti-gun/anti-2nd

    Amendment legislation and it MUST be stopped BECAUSE IT’S

    ALL UN-CONSTITUTIONAL!

    I and others will be watching your vote(s) closely, because

    THIS (the Second Amendment) is the only issue we have left –

    your future as an elected Representative or Senator, as well

    as ours, depends on keeping the 2nd Amendment INVIOLATE.

    We will be casting OUR votes in coming elections based upon

    YOUR votes on these issues.

    (Signed)

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    One of my biggest gripes is the way hunters scoff at self-defensers, concealed carriers scoff at open carriers, and other division among our ranks. Because it shows a profound lack of judgement and an irrational leap of faith. They're okay with anti's attacking the Second Amendment in ways that won't effect them and actually believe that they won't then turn their efforts in ways that will.

    SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. None of this we already have too many laws. Get rid of them! Murder is illegal. Robbery is illegal. Free men should be free.

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    Demarest wrote:
    One of my biggest gripes is the way hunters scoff at self-defensers, concealed carriers scoff at open carriers, and other division among our ranks. Because it shows a profound lack of judgement and an irrational leap of faith. They're okay with anti's attacking the Second Amendment in ways that won't effect them and actually believe that they won't then turn their efforts in ways that will.

    SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. None of this we already have too many laws. Get rid of them! Murder is illegal. Robbery is illegal. Free men should be free.
    Very true. The second amendment isn't about hunting its about defense. As a law abiding gun owner I support owningand carrying guns for any reason. Its very troubling that the various factions can't unite for the common good. It doesn't matter if you hunt, carry a concealed weapon/open carry or target shoot. They are after us all and the sooner everyone realizes that the better. This already happened in England. The government went after handguns and the rifle and shotgun owners did nothing. Now weapons are all but banned across the board. Wake up!!!, they are after your hunting rifles too!!

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