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    Relevant Action Link: http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm

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    While Senator Coburn Successfully Blocks The McCarthy Bill...
    Your activism has strengthened his hand!!!

    Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
    8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
    Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
    http://www.gunowners.org

    Wednesday, October 3, 2007


    "The American Legion, the nation's largest wartime veterans' service
    organization, strongly opposes specific provisions of H.R. 2640... that
    would unilaterally abrogate the rights of certain service-connected
    disabled veterans to own firearms, a right guaranteed by the Second
    Amendment." -- Statement by the American Legion, Sep. 27, 2007


    First, there was Gun Owners of America and a myriad of state gun
    rights organizations.

    Then, the Military Order of the Purple Heart weighed in.

    Now, we've heard from the American Legion.

    The list of groups in opposition to HR 2640 -- the Veterans
    Disarmament Act -- continues growing, even while Senators in our
    nation's capital are continuously being BOMBARDED by thousands
    upon thousands of phone calls and e-mails from grassroots gun
    owners like yourself.

    In fact, your efforts have IMMENSELY STRENGTHENED the hand
    of Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK). In an article entitled, "Coburn's
    block may change strategy for gun bill," a Capitol Hill-based
    newspaper reported this morning that frustration is building over
    Coburn's "hold" on the legislation.

    "We've tried to negotiate," Schumer said, adding that talks with
    Coburn are "'not getting that far. We might have to bring it to a
    vote."

    But the newspaper article in The Hill stated that taking a recorded vote
    on the Veterans Disarmament Act could "complicate its initially strong
    prospects" of passage. As reported in The Hill:

    "The National Rifle Association (NRA) supports the bill, which its
    board member and House Energy and Commerce Committee
    Chairman John Dingell (D-Mich.) helped to craft, but the Gun Owners
    of America (GOA) has backed Coburn and mobilized its grassroots
    against the measure....

    "Coburn also has objected to what he and the GOA -- which dubbed
    the bill the 'Veterans Disarmament Act' -- believe is the risk of
    inadvertently placing veterans treated for mental illness into the
    background-check system, thus endangering their ability to buy a gun.

    "The Military Order of the Purple Heart and the American Legion both
    have backed Coburn's effort.

    "But GOA Executive Director Larry Pratt said his group remains
    opposed to the background-check system in general, viewing it as an
    infringement on the civil liberties and privacy of gun owners. 'This
    would be an objection we'd have even after all these [concerns of
    Coburn's] are taken care of,' Pratt said."

    On a side note: The Hill mentioned that, "Sen. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho)
    said he has received a high volume of contacts from constituents
    alarmed about the bill's effect on gun buyers' rights."

    Other sources have told GOA that Sen. Jim Bunning (R-KY) has also
    gotten hit with a tremendous outpouring of opposition against the bill.

    You will remember that both Senators Crapo and Bunning were two
    of the senators specifically listed in our most recent alert. GOA would
    like to THANK ALL OF YOU for your activism and support. You
    guys are doing a great job... keep up the good work!

    [Oh, by the way, here's a special note for you folks in Idaho. The
    remainder of the Crapo quote in The Hill newspaper goes like this: "At
    this point, I'm not holding the bill," Crapo said. "But that
    doesn't mean I
    won't."' Well, that's a great first step, but Crapo needs to join
    up with
    Coburn in putting a "hold" on the Veterans Disarmament Act. Keep up
    the pressure, guys.]

    ACTION:

    1. The American Legion is already taking heat for its opposition to this
    bill, as the Veterans Administration is blasting them behind the scenes.
    We know that a large percentage of you are members of the American
    Legion. So PLEASE GO TO YOUR LOCAL LEGION HALLS and
    encourage your fellow legionnaires to get involved (and perhaps even
    start receiving GOA alerts). The national office needs to see that
    grassroots legionnaires are behind them so that they will continue to
    stand firm in the face of the heat they're taking. If you need talking
    points, see http://www.gunowners.org/netb.htm -- which is the GOA
    special section on the Veterans Disarmament Act (HR 2640).

    2. Continue to keep contacting your senators via the Legislative Action
    Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm on the GOA site.
    The Hill newspaper says the Veterans Disarmament Act may come up
    as early as next week. Coburn is pushing a package of
    GOA-supported amendments that, taken together, will improve federal
    law -- making things better than they are now. Senators need to hear
    that this bill is an abomination, and that it is IMPERATIVE that they
    support ALL OF THE COBURN AMENDMENTS.

    ---------- Pre-written letter ----------

    Dear Senator:

    Did you know that the American Legion and the Military Order of the
    Purple Heart both oppose the Veterans Disarmament Act, sponsored
    by Carolyn McCarthy in the House (HR 2640) and shepherded by
    Chuck Schumer in the Senate?

    Last week, the American Legion stated that it "strongly opposes
    specific provisions of H.R. 2640... that would unilaterally abrogate the
    rights of certain service-connected disabled veterans to own firearms,
    a right guaranteed by the Second Amendment."

    Senator Tom Coburn wants to offer a series of amendments to this
    obnoxious bill. I hope that you will stand with Senator Coburn and
    defend the constitutionally protected rights of all Americans. And by
    "stand with," I mean supporting ALL of Coburn's amendments -- not
    just one or two.

    Sincerely,


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    I emailed Webb and Warner. It will be interesting to see if I get a response.

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    Awesome. I didn't realize the Legion was on board with this [opposition].



    ETA: My position on this, from another board:

    Originally posted by me:
    Originally Posted By 2hawk:
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    Certain types of mental health orders will no longer prohibit a person from possessing or receiving firearms. Adjudications that have expired or been removed, or commitments from which a person has been completely released with no further supervision required, will no longer prohibit the legal purchase of a firearm.
    Excluding federal decisions about a person's mental health that consist only of a medical diagnosis, without a specific finding that the person is dangerous or mentally incompetent. This provision addresses concerns about disability decisions by the Veterans Administration concerning our brave men and women in uniform. (In 2000, as a parting shot at our service members, the Clinton Administration forced the names of almost 90,000 veterans and veterans' family members to be added to a "prohibited" list; H.R. 2640 would help many of these people get their rights restored.)
    Requiring all participating federal or state agencies to establish "relief from disability" programs that would allow a person to get the mental health prohibition removed, either administratively or in court. This type of relief has not been available at the federal level for the past 15 years.

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    I think that right there is a perfect example of why something like NICS is not a good idea in the first place.

    Federal power is only as benign as its wielder.

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    NEWS RELEASE
    Contact:
    Adam Benson or Kimberlee Trzeciak
    Thursday, October 4, 2007
    202/225-4071 (office)
    202/271-8587 (cell)

    American Legion Issues Letter of Support for NICS Bill
    Planned Changes to Senate Version of H.R. 2640 Alleviate Concerns

    Washington, DC - The American Legion sent a letter to Congressman John D. Dingell (D-MI15) today announcing that it plans to support the NICS (National Instant Criminal Background Check System) Improvement Amendments Act of 2007 when it is brought before the Senate. H.R. 2640 passed the House of Representatives by voice vote on June 13, 2007, and was set to quickly pass through the Senate by unanimous consent until Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) placed a hold on the legislation, citing in part a letter from the American Legion raising questions about the bill. Negotiations between co-sponsors of the bill in the House and Senate had already led to proposed changes clarifying the intent of the legislation, and according the American Legion’s letter to Congressman Dingell, those proposed changes will satisfy its concerns.

    “I am glad that the American Legion has decided to support this important legislation,” Dingell said. “The fact of the matter is, this bill, in addition to keeping guns out of the hands of those already prohibited by law from purchasing a firearm, also includes important protections for veterans. I sincerely hope that the Senate takes this bill up soon so that we can get it back through the House with the clarification changes and to the President’s desk for signature.”

    In the wake of the Virginia Tech shootings, Congressman Dingell and Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY04) introduced H.R. 2640, legislation providing states with grants to input records of potentially dangerous individuals into the national database. This bill will provide NICS with better information, better technology and clearer standards to prevent criminals and the mentally ill from slipping through the cracks to obtain weapons.

    Congressman Dingell is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. In creating this legislation, he worked with the National Rifle Association to ensure that American’s Second Amendment rights are protected. Not only will this legislation make NICS more effective, it will also ensure that those who have erroneously been included in the system have a way to get out.

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    Having just joined the Legion, I was concerned about this...

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    Thanks for posting this, but.....

    NEWS RELEASE
    Contact:
    Adam Benson or Kimberlee Trzeciak
    Thursday, October 4, 2007
    202/225-4071 (office)
    202/271-8587 (cell)

    American Legion Issues Letter of Support for NICS Bill
    Planned Changes to Senate Version of H.R. 2640 Alleviate Concerns

    <snip>

    In the wake of the Virginia Tech shootings, Congressman Dingell and Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY04) introduced H.R. 2640, legislation providing states with grants to input records of potentially dangerous individuals into the national database. This bill will provide NICS with better information, better technology and clearer standards to prevent criminals and the mentally ill from slipping through the cracks to obtain weapons.
    Does anyone know how much we're going to spending to "prevent criminals and the mentally ill from slipping through the cracks to obtain weapons"? And does anyone really know how often this actually happens? How often do criminals and the mentally ill "slip through the cracks" and get a pass on their NICS check?

    Congressman Dingell is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. In creating this legislation, he worked with the National Rifle Association to ensure that American’s Second Amendment rights are protected. Not only will this legislation make NICS more effective, it will also ensure that those who have erroneously been included in the system have a way to get out.
    So I guess now there's statutory language to ensure this particular provision isn't zero-funded?

    Aside from the above, I guess I still fail to see what we "win". What concessions have they made to "us" (NRA, Am. Legion, etc) in return for "our" support? Where is the "compromise" from their side?

    The antis get something [big] they've been after for years....... where's our big something?

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