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    It's sad that people buy into this kind of propaganda.

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    Amazing

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    It is a lie. Guns were banned in the UK and crime rates dropped and there are no crimes involving guns now; didn't you know?

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    .40 Cal wrote:
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    It's sad that people buy into this kind of propaganda.
    I just registered to tell them a thing or 2

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    Nice! Sometimes we forget that our role borders on that of educators as well as activists.

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    Nice! Sometimes we forget that our role borders on that of educators as well as activists.

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    UTOC-45-44 wrote:
    .40 Cal wrote:
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    It's sad that people buy into this kind of propaganda.
    I just registered to tell them a thing or 2
    Make sure to ask them what exactly "gun crime" is. Then ask them why they don't similarly include the engine of other criminal activity such as "knife crime" and "car crime."

    No wonder they banned their guns. What, if they're committing crimes on their own and stuff. I'm glad my guns are better behaved than that and only do what I tell them to

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    i just posted my .40's worth.

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    UTOC-45-44 wrote:
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    It's sad that people buy into this kind of propaganda.
    I just registered to tell them a thing or 2
    Well done,'44, for your robust post, but, sadly,my Motherland has long been a lost cause. The people , for the most part, have been emasculated and socialised to such a degree that they can no longer think rationally and coherently when firearms are mentioned.

    Why do you think I enjoy my New Kentucky Home so much? It is because I do not have to hear this kind of nonsense here!

    But you certainly gave 'em something to think about!Good job!

    TrueBrit.

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    TrueBrit wrote:
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    http://www.skeptics.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=19005

    It's sad that people buy into this kind of propaganda.
    I just registered to tell them a thing or 2
    Well done,'44, for your robust post, but, sadly,my Motherland has long been a lost cause. The people , for the most part, have been emasculated and socialised to such a degree that they can no longer think rationally and coherently when firearms are mentioned.

    Why do you think I enjoy my New Kentucky Home so much? It is because I do not have to hear this kind of nonsense here!

    But you certainly gave 'em something to think about!Good job!

    TrueBrit.
    I'm sorry if I didn't give it hard enough, but it was my 1st post on that Forum. I have to take it easy first of

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    TrueBrit wrote:
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    http://www.skeptics.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=19005

    It's sad that people buy into this kind of propaganda.
    I just registered to tell them a thing or 2
    Well done,'44, for your robust post, but, sadly,my Motherland has long been a lost cause. The people , for the most part, have been emasculated and socialised to such a degree that they can no longer think rationally and coherently when firearms are mentioned.

    Why do you think I enjoy my New Kentucky Home so much? It is because I do not have to hear this kind of nonsense here!

    But you certainly gave 'em something to think about!Good job!

    TrueBrit.
    One of many reasons I'm glad to have left England. I enjoyed my time there immensely, I love every place I visited, but towards the end of my second tour there (USAF, 97-02, 04-07) I was really fed up with the government, politics and tranzi mentalities running the place. My house and vehicles were broken into several times, with little to no police response. Several of my troops were assaulted and seriously injured, with little to no police response. But if you were caught with your military issue, folding, auto-opening knife off base, you went to jail. Shoot burglars with a shotgun, go to jail. Protect your property or your self, go to jail.

    I will desparately miss the kabobs, curries, authentic steak-n-ale pie, the rock climbing, wearing kiltsup Ben Nevis, etc. But I think being here in Arizona will make up for it over time. Kilts on Mt. Lemmon, here I come...:what:

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    PavePusher wrote:
    TrueBrit wrote:
    UTOC-45-44 wrote:
    .40 Cal wrote:
    http://www.skeptics.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=19005

    It's sad that people buy into this kind of propaganda.
    I just registered to tell them a thing or 2
    Well done,'44, for your robust post, but, sadly,my Motherland has long been a lost cause. The people , for the most part, have been emasculated and socialised to such a degree that they can no longer think rationally and coherently when firearms are mentioned.

    Why do you think I enjoy my New Kentucky Home so much? It is because I do not have to hear this kind of nonsense here!

    But you certainly gave 'em something to think about!Good job!

    TrueBrit.
    One of many reasons I'm glad to have left England. I enjoyed my time there immensely, I love every place I visited, but towards the end of my second tour there (USAF, 97-02, 04-07) I was really fed up with the government, politics and tranzi mentalities running the place. My house and vehicles were broken into several times, with little to no police response. Several of my troops were assaulted and seriously injured, with little to no police response. But if you were caught with your military issue, folding, auto-opening knife off base, you went to jail. Shoot burglars with a shotgun, go to jail. Protect your property or your self, go to jail.

    I will desparately miss the kabobs, curries, authentic steak-n-ale pie, the rock climbing, wearing kiltsup Ben Nevis, etc. But I think being here in Arizona will make up for it over time. Kilts on Mt. Lemmon, here I come...:what:
    the kabobs,...(droooooool)

    I sure do remember them.

    NOBODY knows how to make a GOOD kabob here

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    Well, I'm sure that fairly soon you'll be called a "stupid, fat American" and ignored entirely on the board. From my experience on primarily British message boards, posters have a great hostility toward Americans, and tend think that we're too incompetent (for a variety of reasons) to even be bothered arguing with. Any good point made is rebutted with "Well, you're just a stupid American, so your opinion doesn't matter here. You're probably fat and have no culture."

    But, the discussion does seem relatively reasoned. I've seen much, much worse. Though I haven't heard of the gun manufacturers AK, Gloch, or Mack before... I guess my point is that it seems the problem is a deluge of misinformation, not an erroreous line of thinking like that found in the more serious American anti-gunners.

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    Amazing thing is it's a skeptic website. Skeptics tend to be libertarians by nature, but in this case I guess they're probably Nerf Libertarians (libertarians who like to talk about economics but avoid guns).

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    UTOC seems to have ended the discussion.

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    .40 Cal wrote:
    UTOC seems to have ended the discussion.
    Nope... it's time to go back.

    Now I take the comment back about irrationality. The other posters there are just getting stupid now.

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    I just put in my 2 cents.

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    I couldn't resist posting my thoughts as well. I hope it doesn't seem like an American invasion or anything.

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    Sigh... still doesn't seem to be working. The unfortunate thing is that a proper education on American gun ownership would take an incredibly long time to write. Such as explaining what the 2nd amendment actually reads as, how gun crime has always been lower in the UK even when we had tighter (or nearly as tight) gun restrictions as they did, how our murders rate not involving firearms is still three times higher than Japan's entire murder rate... Oh, and how firearm ownership's increasing the risk of an in-family shooting is just a statistical correlation, not a cause-and-effect relationship. Using that logic, minorities are more violent because they commit more crimes. Or is it because they are policed more and live in poorer conditions, leading to more contact with a criminal element and thus more likelihood to be involved in crime?

    But, alas, I feel that properly understanding the debate requires a certain mindset, one of skepticism (ironic?) and personal responsibility that many people, both in this country and in the UK, do not have.

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    Gave some more comments. They just seems to get it. I Use to live in England and that folk is very...how should I say...stubborn, and very under the foot by the Government.

    Sorry Truebrit,I don't think they have their freedom any longer and therefore feel that they have to be "chained" by it. I am Glad that you saw the Light and came to the Land of the Free.

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    The Brits showed how far they have fallen recently when they apoligized to Iran for invading their territorial waters despite GPS evidence to the contrary. I do not believe the Iranians would have tried to assault an American Naval vessel . The result would have been many dead Iranians .

    Winston Churchill must be rolling over in his grave...........

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    I just had to blow a big hole in the opposing side's argument.:celebrate

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    "Am I advocating handing out guns to school children? Absolutely not."

    I do. But if I posted that on that forum, I could probably hear the noise from across the pond of a paradigm shifting without a clutch...

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    imperialism2024 wrote:
    I do. But if I posted that on that forum, I could probably hear the noise from across the pond of a paradigm shifting without a clutch...
    Given their squishy thinking, my money says they use torque converters.

    And they're low on ATF.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    You Guys REALLY need to Check out the discussion on this website that stated this Thread. It ridiculus. I'm so sorry Truebrit

    http://www.skeptics.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=19005

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