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    They are finally making some progress. The project was scheduled to open in 2008, it doesn't look like that is going to happen.

    http://www.co.clark.nv.us/parks/Shoo...007/issue5.htm


    Edit: I was hoping it would be open by Feb. 08, since I would be in NV for the S.H.O.T. show.
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    Would be nice to find something like this being built in Virginia!
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    i think every state should have at least one!!!
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    Agent19 wrote:
    i think every state should have at least one!!!
    Every state owned park would be a good start!

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    I got this from the Shooting Park Manager back in August
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    Three years ago it was suppose to be open in January 08. We have slipped in the schedule and it should be open between October 08 and Jan 09. We are closing bids on the water line this week, so construction should start soon. We will be sending out our new eBULLETin within the next couple of weeks. Thanks for checking on us. I wish it were open now!
    The draft fees are $6.00 per day for rifle, pistol, archery. And $5.00 per round of 25 birds trap and skeet. Juniors under 17, no fee for rifle, pistol and archery, and $2.00 off of each round for trap and skeet.
    This is just draft as all fees have to be approved by the County Commission.

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    bplv wrote:
    I got this from the Shooting Park Manager back in August
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    Three years ago it was suppose to be open in January 08. We have slipped in the schedule and it should be open between October 08 and Jan 09. We are closing bids on the water line this week, so construction should start soon. We will be sending out our new eBULLETin within the next couple of weeks. Thanks for checking on us. I wish it were open now!
    The draft fees are $6.00 per day for rifle, pistol, archery. And $5.00 per round of 25 birds trap and skeet. Juniors under 17, no fee for rifle, pistol and archery, and $2.00 off of each round for trap and skeet.
    This is just draft as all fees have to be approved by the County Commission.
    Fantastic - sounds like it will be a great benefit.

    BTW - Let me be the first to welcome you to OCDO - opencarry.com
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    eBULLETin
    An electronic newsletter from the Clark County Shooting Park
    and the Parks & Recreation Department
    where fun happens!






    Volume 3: Issue 6
    October-November 2007 eBULLETin






    Work continues on the design of the civil plans for the Shooting Park. We recently completed the back check of the 100% designs. They are currently being reviewed by various governmental identities including Clark County. As soon as the reviews are completed and any changes made, they will be prepared for bid.

    Our Marketing Specialist has completed a marketing plan for the Shooting Park, and we are now implementing some of the projects. The first project is the Trade Show Program. The project will consist of taking the Shooting Park display to various trade shows within the Las Vegas market. The first major show will the SHOT Show in February.

    will be needed to staff the Shooting Park display. Therefore, we are announcing the establishment of our volunteer program to support the Trade Show Program.

    Recruitment for the Clark County Shooting Park Trade Show Volunteer Program has begun!! Help us promote the Shooting Park. Start by submitting an online application through the Clark County Parks & Recreation Department.Follow this link to apply and write shooting park on your application.

    This is your opportunity to be part of an exciting program in the Las Vegas Valley. Attend trade shows, gun shows, outdoor expositions, etc. as a Shooting Park Volunteer. We need your help, expertise, and charming personality!!

    You will be contacted by our Marketing Specialist with information regarding volunteer training and becoming a member of the Shooting Park Team!

    If you wish more information about the Trade Show Program or other future volunteer programs contact our Marketing Specialist Joan Miller at jcmiller@co.clark.nv.us or give her a call at (702) 455-5894.

    Thank you for your interest in the Clark County Shooting Park, until next time...

    Keep your powder dry!

    Don Turner, Manager
    Clark County Shooting Park
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    If you think like a Statist, act like one, or back some, you've given up on freedom and have gone over to the dark side.
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    This is fantastic news. I sent my volunteer application in for the shooting park (as well as fine arts).

    I talked to a local Gun Shop owner today about the park. Cant wait for it to be open!

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    I sumitted my app this weekend and received a voice mail when I got home tonight thanking me for applying and that a rep will be in contact with me shortly for additional info and questions.

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    I personally can't wait for this to open There will still be times when I want to go out to the wide open desert to shoot, but I'll feel better knowing someone won't be shooting towards me by mistake which is something I worry about "out there."

    I know the draft fees are $6.00 per day, but I hope they decide to include a "locals' rate" or a yearly membership for less. I already have a .22 rifle, I'm considering purchasing a .22 pistol, and I'm moving to within a few miles of the shooting park very soon, so I might just have to go shooting every day !!! I wouldn't be able to afford $180 per month, so if they don't have a membership program, I think I'll go spend a couple hundred down at American Shooters for a full year of range use and free gun rentals.

    Either way, you'll be sure to see me at the shooting park with my full compliment of firearms from time to time. I have an AK-47, a Steyr M95, a Marlin Model 60, and a Hi-Point C9 pistol. The AK and Steyr are cheapest to shoot with surplus ammo, but because the bullets attract a magnet (no steel core, just iron in the jacket alloy), the indoor ranges don't like them.

    And before anyone gets any ideas, I know that it would not be a good idea to fix bayonets and charge the targets, no matter how frustrated one gets :P!

    If you do see me there andask nicely , I'll probably let you shoot each of 'em

    See y'all at the range


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    $6.00 isn't bad.

    If they offered memberships that would be nice.
    It wouldn't be worth it for me, sinceI only make it to LV 2-3x a yr for 3-7 days at a time.

    If your looking for some place to shoot there is always Desert Sportsman's off of West Charleston
    (at the entrance to Red Rock Canyon).
    I believe their annual dues are $150-200and NRA memebership is required
    (not curtain as it has been a few yrs since I checked it out) but they do have events almost every weekend to include SASS, IDPA, Bench Rest, Silhouette, IPSC, VBAR, Sub-gun and Paladin matches.

    Events are open to the public, membership not required, the fee to shootis higher for non members.
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    i cannot wait for this park to open. I am tired of the jerks in private ranges.

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    Us at Desert Sportsman have always seemed nice enough. What ranges have all the jerks and why do you think a gov't one will not have jerks?

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    good point. i was at 'public' ranges in NY and they were equally jerks.

    i was looking into desert sportsman, but the fees are a lil steep for me right now.

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    If you want to do IDPA shooting or something, you can come out to Desert Sportsman and pay $10 instead of the $5 members pay. That way you get to do some shooting out there. lasvegasidpa.com.



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    maybe i should go out and see what its all about. I have my NRA membership and all, so i am kewl with that.

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    Clark County Shooting Park Volunteer Opportunities!



    The Clark County Shooting Park is currently accepting Volunteer Applications. Weare very excitedabout the implementation of several volunteer opportunities that support the shooting park. Wealso understand that your time is valuable and are grateful that youwould consider assistingus provide quality service toour customers.

    We have opportunities in thefollowing programs:

    Trade Show (represents shooting park at trade showswith shooting park booth and promotional materials)
    Retail Business Partnership (coordinates with local business who are supporting the shooting park)
    Line Safety Officer (serves at shotgun and rifle-pistol ranges assafety officer and customer service representative)
    Women's Program (women volunteers to assist other women in firearms safety and introduction to shooting)
    Junior's Program(serves with the junior shotgun, rifle, pistol and archery programs)
    Host Program (lives in provided on site RV area and provides various services as needed, no children please)

    We have established a customer service training class for all shooting park staff and volunteers. You willbe provided with the opportunity tocomplete our"Cornerstone Training"class before being trained for the volunteer program you are interested in.

    Our next Cornerstone Training classis on February 21, 2009.



    For those interested in participating in the Trade Show Program, we willoffer the Trade Show training class immediately following the Cornerstone Training Program on Saturday, 2/21/09.

    All applicants will have to fill out the county volunteer application page on line. Please go to the link provided in the attachment. Remember to check "shooting park" on the application.

    If theFebruary21st session will fit your schedule please e-mail or call me as soon as possible. Thank you andwe hope to see you inFebruary!

    Kristen Stetzenbach, Outreach Specialist

    Clark County Shooting Park

    5710 Simmons Street # 125

    North Las Vegas, Nevada 89031


    702-455-5894 (office)

    702-378-9913 (cell)

    702-383-3307 (fax)


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    Supporters of shooting range prevail



    All but one challenge dismissed



    By ADRIENNE PACKER



    LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL



    The legal battle over a controversial 2,900-acre shooting park appears to be over, meaning gun enthusiasts will likely pack up their weapons and head to the public facility when it opens late this year.

    Senior U.S. District Judge Lloyd George on Monday dismissed most of the claims lodged by residents who filed a lawsuit in an attempt to stop construction of the park north of Moccasin Road between Decatur Boulevard and Buffalo Drive.
    Homeowners argued they were not properly informed of the proposed use of the land, that a shooting range would violate county noise ordinances and that the appropriate environmental impact studies were never performed on the land. George tossed out all but one claim. He declined to dismiss the argument concerning the environmental impact because the Bureau of Land Management is in the midst of its own study.

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    BLM, which conveyed the land to the county, is analyzing whether the range would significantly and adversely affect the land, a ruling that could require further studies. The report is expected to be released Aug. 3.Deputy District Attorney Rob Warhola said he believes George's ruling marks the end of the legal wrangling. Residents may file an appeal with the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, but by the time that process runs its course the park probably will be done.

    Even if the BLM decides that more environmental work needs to be done, the county would complete the required work and finish the park.

    "We did so much out there already, I can't imagine they'd find any (additional work) anyway, "Warhola said. "If they do, we'll just do it."

    Attorney Matthew Callister, who in the past has referred to the park as "Disneyland with guns," was out of town Tuesday and could not be reached for comment.

    The county began planning the park in the early 1980s and the land was transferred to the county in 2003. Between the time the park was designed and the time the construction began, development in the Las Vegas Valley crept up to its border.

    Warhola said master plans outlining future projects are available at the county. The designation for the shooting park land was "public facility."

    "Most of them (residents) moved out there after the zoning was approved for the shooting park,"Warhola said. "If they would have just looked and asked to see what public facility meant they would have seen it was a shooting park."
    In the past, residents said they believed a public facility designation on the land meant a park, library or school.
    George sided with the county in ruling that the sellers of homes are required by law to disclose master plan designations of property within a one-mile radius of the property being sold.
    Homeowners also unsuccessfully argued that the county failed to provide adequate notice of its intent to build the range or keep residents posted about Shooting Park Advisory Committee meetings. George also rejected the argument that the county improperly zoned the land.
    The first phase of the park will cover 900 acres and cost around $64 million. The park, which ultimately will be the largest shooting range in the country, will include a 1,200-yard high-power rifle range, 125 trap ranges and 24 skeet ranges. Warhola said the first phase should be completed by the end of the year.




    Contact reporter Adrienne Packer at apacker@reviewjournal.com or 702-384-8710.




    Find this article at:




    http://www.lvrj.com/news/44869772.html





    Supporters of shooting range prevail - News - Review Journal.com http://www.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=Supporters...








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    Format posts please.:?

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    I was in a rush.

    You know you can sign up to receive the email updates.:P
    http://www.accessclarkcounty.com/dep...ting_Park.aspx
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    From:
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    Thu 8/06/09 10:08 AM



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    BLM Nevada News
    Southern Nevada District Office
    FOR RELEASE: August 3, 2009
    CONTACT: Kirsten Cannon (702) 515-5057; kirsten_cannon@blm.gov
    
    BLM Seeks Comments on Shooting Park Environmental Assessment
    
    Las Vegas -- The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) Las Vegas Field Office
    is soliciting public comments in regard to the transfer of 2,880 acres
    of public land to Clark County, Nev., to be used as a centralized
    shooting park facility. The lands are located north of Decatur
    Boulevard. The 30-day review period on the Clark County Shooting Park
    Environmental Assessment begins August 3 and ends September 2, 2009.
    
    BLM prepared the environmental assessment (EA) to comply with the
    National Environmental Policy Act and a United States District Court
    Order.
    
    BLM transferred the subject lands to Clark County in November 2003 in
    response to Public Law 107-350, which mandated public lands were to be
    conveyed by the Secretary of the Interior for a shooting facility as
    soon as practicable after the date of enactment of the Act. The Act
    directed the Secretary to transfer the specified lands to Clark County
    for a centralized shooting facility. Rather, the Secretary was to
    ensure the lands are transferred as directed by Congress.
    
    The environmental assessment is available online at
    http://www.blm.gov/nv/st/en/fo/lvfo.html.
    
    Written comments should be addressed to Bob Ross, BLM Las Vegas Field
    Manager, 4701 North Torrey Pines Drive, Las Vegas, NV 89130
    -BLM-
    
    The BLM manages more land - 258 million acres - than any other Federal
    agency. This land, known as the National System of Public Lands, is
    primarily located in 12 Western States, including Alaska. The Bureau,
    with a budget of about $1 billion, also administers 700 million acres of
    sub-surface mineral estate throughout the nation. The BLM's
    multiple-use mission is to sustain the health and productivity of the
    public lands for the use and enjoyment of present and future
    generations. The Bureau accomplishes this by managing such activities
    as outdoor recreation, livestock grazing, mineral development, and
    energy production, and by conserving natural, historical, cultural, and
    other resources on public lands.
    
    
    
    Kirsten Cannon, APR
    Bureau of Land Management
    4701 North Torrey Pines
    Las Vegas, Nevada 89130
    Phone: 702-515-5057
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    This went out in today's NRA e-mail list:


    Clark County Shooting Park Needs Your Support!
    Please Contact the BLM Today!

    The Clark County Shooting Park is a 3,000 acre park outside of Las Vegas that is devoted entirely to the shooting sports. It was created by an Act of Congress that transferred land to Clark County from the federal Bureau of Land Management (BLM). Not long after the transfer, some local residents filed a lawsuit to close down the shooting park. The federal judge dismissed their charges, but ordered the BLM to complete some environmental studies.

    An Environmental Assessment with a "Finding of No Significant Impact" (FONSI) has been completed and is open for public comment until Wednesday, September 2. The same people who sued the shooting park, along with their allies, plan to bury BLM with letters demanding a more extensive environmental analysis as another form of harassment against the shooting park.

    Since comments are not limited to Nevada residents, we are asking that NRA members from around the country send comments to BLM in order to counter comments by the shooting park's opposition. A large number of supportive letters will also positively influence BLM decisions on other shooting areas and ranges nationwide.

    If you shoot recreationally, it is important the BLM hear from you. Gun control advocates and radical environmental activists are trying to shut down shooting ranges or keep them from opening across the country, so it is important that BLM hear from you. Please take a few minutes to send Mr. Bob Ross, BLM Las Vegas Field Manager, your comments supporting the Environmental Assessment and recommending that the FONSI be approved and that the environmental review process be completed. His address is: 4701 North Torrey Pines Drive, Las Vegas, NV 89130. The environmental assessment is available online at http://www.blm.gov/nv/st/en/fo/lvfo.html.

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