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    Industry experts say the weapons are unlike any other now on the market and could shake up the firearms world. What makes the weapons special, company and industry officials say, is a new patented operating system that substantially reduces recoil and muzzle climb when fired.

    The recoil, or kick, of a conventional weapon is directed backward into a shooter's shoulder, causing the gun to rise off target. TDI's "Super V" bolt-and-slide mechanism directs the energy downward in front of the trigger. Company tests indicate the mechanism reduces recoil by 40 to 60 percent and muzzle rise by about 95 percent over conventional gun operating systems.

    At a Thursday demonstration for media at a Blackwater USA firing range in Moyock, officials said their system improves accuracy and reduces user fatigue. The submachine gun can be fired with one hand and remain on target.

    "This is the future of weapons right here," said Andrew Finn, TDI's senior vice president.

    TDI has worked with the Army and special operations forces to develop the technology. It uses Blackwater's facilities to field test the weapons.

    Officials set up the disabled vehicle scenario to demonstrate the maneuverability and firepower of the .45-caliber submachine gun, which TDI says is ideal for close-quarter situations the police and military encounter in urban settings.

    The gun, which weighs about 5 pounds unloaded and collapses to a length of 16 inches, can be easily carried in helicopters, Humvees and other vehicles, said Maffin, a retired Marine who began working at TDI's Virginia Beach operation about a year ago.

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    I'm pretty sure I saw a this gun on an episode of Future Weapons on the Discovery Channel. Anyone else see that?

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    Yep. Uses some sort of novel mechanical device to transfer the recoil energy to vertical motion. Pretty neat stuff.

    Edit:
    Found a movie from the futureweapons episode!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2kEg8rEPl8

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    Likely using technology developed by the Russians in their AN(?)-94. IIRC it fires two shots, combining recoil and gas operation, nearly indistinguishable one from the next.

    Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns and the truth. NRA/GOP *******

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    I'll take two.

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    Yeah, read about it in a gun porn mag few months ago.

    Do you think they will come out with a semi-auto version?

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    danbus wrote:
    Yeah, read about it in a gun porn mag few months ago.

    Do you think they will come out with a semi-auto version?
    I can't see why they wouldn't...the recoil management benefits would still be obvious even in semi-auto. Hey, maybe we'll find a miracle and by the time it comes out, we'll all be able to have the full auto version!!

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    I'm thinking OC. Wouldn't that give LEO a coronary.

    I'll take one too.

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    DreQo wrote:
    danbus wrote:
    Yeah, read about it in a gun porn mag few months ago.

    Do you think they will come out with a semi-auto version?
    I can't see why they wouldn't...the recoil management benefits would still be obvious even in semi-auto. Hey, maybe we'll find a miracle and by the time it comes out, we'll all be able to have the full auto version!!
    How about contacting our NRA leaders and asking to push pro-automatic weapons ownership legislation through Congress? Maybe we should start concentrating on the "well-regulated militia" part of the 2nd amendment...

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    So I also take it that the gun's light enough to be held with one hand? I mean, sure, I can fire my Mossberg 500 Special Purpose with one hand when I have the pistol grip on it, but I can't really hold it up for more than a few shots before my wrist gets tired. Maybe I'm just a pansy...

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    Just an observation, the "slide" and action seem to be completely encased in the weapon. This, of course, has benefits, like not being as exposed to the elements and such. I'm concerned about how easy (or difficult) it would be to clear a malfunction. Then again I'm sure people had similar thoughts about the original semi-autos as well.

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    imperialism2024 wrote:
    So I also take it that the gun's light enough to be held with one hand? I mean, sure, I can fire my Mossberg 500 Special Purpose with one hand when I have the pistol grip on it, but I can't really hold it up for more than a few shots before my wrist gets tired. Maybe I'm just a pansy...
    You can fire almost any non-crew served weapon one-handed....once, at least!

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    imperialism2024 wrote:
    DreQo wrote:
    danbus wrote:
    Yeah, read about it in a gun porn mag few months ago.

    Do you think they will come out with a semi-auto version?
    I can't see why they wouldn't...the recoil management benefits would still be obvious even in semi-auto. Hey, maybe we'll find a miracle and by the time it comes out, we'll all be able to have the full auto version!!
    How about contacting our NRA leaders and asking to push pro-automatic weapons ownership legislation through Congress? Maybe we should start concentrating on the "well-regulated militia" part of the 2nd amendment...
    Sign me up. Repeal the NFA 1934.

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    DreQo wrote:
    Just an observation, the "slide" and action seem to be completely encased in the weapon. This, of course, has benefits, like not being as exposed to the elements and such. I'm concerned about how easy (or difficult) it would be to clear a malfunction. Then again I'm sure people had similar thoughts about the original semi-autos as well.
    Well, if it can be fired from one hand, naturally one should wield two of them at a time. So if one jams, it's not too big of a deal

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