New submachine gun could shake up the firearms world

Industry experts say the weapons are unlike any other now on the market and could shake up the firearms world. What makes the weapons special, company and industry officials say, is a new patented operating system that substantially reduces recoil and muzzle climb when fired.

The recoil, or kick, of a conventional weapon is directed backward into a shooter's shoulder, causing the gun to rise off target. TDI's "Super V" bolt-and-slide mechanism directs the energy downward in front of the trigger. Company tests indicate the mechanism reduces recoil by 40 to 60 percent and muzzle rise by about 95 percent over conventional gun operating systems.

At a Thursday demonstration for media at a Blackwater USA firing range in Moyock, officials said their system improves accuracy and reduces user fatigue. The submachine gun can be fired with one hand and remain on target.

"This is the future of weapons right here," said Andrew Finn, TDI's senior vice president.

TDI has worked with the Army and special operations forces to develop the technology. It uses Blackwater's facilities to field test the weapons.

Officials set up the disabled vehicle scenario to demonstrate the maneuverability and firepower of the .45-caliber submachine gun, which TDI says is ideal for close-quarter situations the police and military encounter in urban settings.

The gun, which weighs about 5 pounds unloaded and collapses to a length of 16 inches, can be easily carried in helicopters, Humvees and other vehicles, said Maffin, a retired Marine who began working at TDI's Virginia Beach operation about a year ago.

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Yeah, read about it in a gun porn mag few months ago.

Do you think they will come out with a semi-auto version?

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danbus wrote:

Yeah, read about it in a gun porn mag few months ago.

Do you think they will come out with a semi-auto version?

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I can't see why they wouldn't...the recoil management benefits would still be obvious even in semi-auto. Hey, maybe we'll find a miracle and by the time it comes out, we'll all be able to have the full auto version!!

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So I also take it that the gun's light enough to be held with one hand? I mean, sure, I can fire my Mossberg 500 Special Purpose with one hand when I have the pistol grip on it, but I can't really hold it up for more than a few shots before my wrist gets tired. Maybe I'm just a pansy...

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DreQo wrote:

danbus wrote:

Yeah, read about it in a gun porn mag few months ago.

Do you think they will come out with a semi-auto version?

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I can't see why they wouldn't...the recoil management benefits would still be obvious even in semi-auto. Hey, maybe we'll find a miracle and by the time it comes out, we'll all be able to have the full auto version!!

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How about contacting our NRA leaders and asking to push pro-automatic weapons ownership legislation through Congress? Maybe we should start concentrating on the "well-regulated militia" part of the 2nd amendment...

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Just an observation, the "slide" and action seem to be completely encased in the weapon. This, of course, has benefits, like not being as exposed to the elements and such. I'm concerned about how easy (or difficult) it would be to clear a malfunction. Then again I'm sure people had similar thoughts about the original semi-autos as well.

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