No I did get his name, but I have this habit of not remembering names unless I see them written down. Sadly I did not have a chance to write it down. The rest of the call went as described. The Sgt. while gruff was a decent enough person to talk with, and I would probablly enjoy drinking a beer with him.
One conversation I had with Lt. Wilson he told me that while he understands I am a law abiding citizen, that if I continued to OC I would probably get to know all the downtown cops. Since the way I have been meeting downtown cops lately has revolved around "please stand up, put your hands behind your head and interlace your fingers" I thought I could circumvent this somewhat unpleasant experience a bit. Lt. Wilson told me that they have something like 70 sworn officers and he could not tell them all I am a "good guy".
I went out of my way NOT to argue case law with the Sgt. I told him I was well acquainted with the laws and case laws regarding OC when he asked. I said I was trying to ensure my safety and well being by talking to another officer outside of Lt. Wilson and any staff commonly available on weekdays. I did this. Two officers in a supervisory position are acquainted with my posistion. One officer works business hours, and the other works weekends. It seems simply stating that I had been working with Lt. Wilson was sufficient, and I will use this if there is a future incident. I will ask for a couple of names of officers in supervisory situations I can contact day, night or weekend if there is a problem.
As much as I don't want to, I believe I will have to accept there may be some more unpleasant experiences, and I do not want any of them to involve staring at gun muzzles or wearing handcuffs. I do not see it as hurting my cause to make myself peaceably known to a couple of cops. This may well influence how a strange cop on a dark night treats me.
What bothers me, and why I made this post is the clear disregard the whole of the OPD, rank and file seem to have about OCing. I learned more in my little phone call with the Sgt. than I have with all of my conversations with Lt. Wilson, and what I learned bothers me to no great end.
I am a salesman by profession which helps me negoiating anddealing with peopleand will continue making my pitch in a professional, firm and courteous manner to those who matter in this case.
I am sorry you believe I was trying to start something and have a selective memory. Names do not stick well with me. Oh well. I need to carry a pen and paper for the little details.