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    Is it possible that this is actually true? I figured this guy would be charged even though he was defending himself.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...goodeating-pic

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    Yeah. In places like Illinois, England, Australia, etc, it's not at all uncommon for gun owners defending themselves are treated like criminals. Glad to see a climate shift taking place.

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    dngreer wrote:
    Is it possible that this is actually true? I figured this guy would be charged even though he was defending himself.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...goodeating-pic
    Illinois past legislation prohibiting being charged under a local ordinance for agun violation if the gun was used in self defense.

    You can't legally owna handgun in Chicago (pre 1974 legally registered excluded), but if you use it in self defense the only thing Chicago can do is confiscate the gun.

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    Wow that's pretty amazing considering its Chicago. I would have expected they would arrest him and charge him with murder and let the grand jury sort it out. Seems like that's the norm for libral states anyway. I'm glad they didn't, no one deserves to be arrested and treated like a criminalfor defending their own life.

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    This is a very important story because it's Chicago.

    Good news for gun owners and carriers, this one. Looks like a very clear cut case.

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    If you think like a Statist, act like one, or back some, you've given up on freedom and have gone over to the dark side.
    The easiest ex. but probably the most difficult to grasp for gun owners is that fool permission slip so many of you have, especially if you show it off with pride. You should recognize it as an embarrassment, an infringement, a travesty and an affront to a free person.


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    The exemption does not apply for possession if it was not used in self defense.

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    IANAL, no one should think I'm advocating breaking the law
    If you think like a Statist, act like one, or back some, you've given up on freedom and have gone over to the dark side.
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    Agent19 wrote:
    lockman wrote:
    prohibiting being charged for agun violation if the gun was used in self defense.

    You can't legally owna handgun but if you use it in self defense the only thing Chicago can do is confiscate the gun.
    if the other anti States/Cities took this postion.

    it would be a TINY step in the right direction



    we could all carry discreetly withno worries of being arrested if we are forced to use it (buy/carry something you wouldn't miss if seized)
    Or you could have a couple of handguns on hand to replace the one they seize. Not ideal but better than nothing I guess.

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    Or Illinois could stop infringing on a right given to us in the second ammendment... that would probably work better.

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    Massachusetts need to stop too, just owning a gun is a mere government granted privilige.

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    Or Illinois could stop infringing on a right given to us in the second ammendment... that would probably work better.
    The Bill of Rights didn't GIVE us anything. It enumerates basic human rights so that the government cannot later try and take them away as history shows us is what governments do best. It's a common mistake made by pro-gun people. You have a right to life whether a piece of paper or your government observe it or not.

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    WhiteRabbit22 wrote:
    Or Illinois could stop infringing on a right given to us byGod that's protected by the second ammendment... that would probably work better.
    Corrected. Thank you for pointing that out.

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    Demarest wrote:
    WhiteRabbit22 wrote:
    Or Illinois could stop infringing on a right given to us in the second ammendment... that would probably work better.
    The Bill of Rights didn't GIVE us anything. It enumerates basic human rights so that the government cannot later try and take them away as history shows us is what governments do best. It's a common mistake made by pro-gun people. You have a right to life whether a piece of paper or your government observe it or not.
    Of course you are right, it must be a side affect of living in a "peoples republic" for too long.

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    Another article, this one w/ details...

    http://maroon.uchicago.edu/online_ed...shot-in-chest/

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    Well, if someone kicks in my door, yelling and threatening, they can expect the same treatment.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    Well, that evil victim should not have shot them. That poor drunk almost died! And so young, too...

    Hey, 24 year old drunk who gets his kicks from pushing other people around... Here's a thought: If you can't drink responsibly and you're a lightweight, don't get drunk at all! And shame on the writer of that article for sympathizing with the perps.

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    Well, that evil victim should not have shot them. That poor drunk almost died! And so young, too...

    Hey, 24 year old drunk who gets his kicks from pushing other people around... Here's a thought: If you can't drink responsibly and you're a lightweight, don't get drunk at all! And shame on the writer of that article for sympathizing with the perps.

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    nvm
    If you think like a Statist, act like one, or back some, you've given up on freedom and have gone over to the dark side.
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    I'm surprised that any newspaper in Shitcago actually covered the story after finding it was a clear cut case of self defense.

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    I have to admit, I wasn't terribly impressed by Chicago.

    Myopic Books was pretty good, and Hot Doug's has some awesome lunches, but that's it.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    For those who are seeking tactical training that simulates real life situations should check out Urban Warfare Training Center or visit www.opsmedia.com



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    Opsgear wrote:
    For those who are seeking tactical training that simulates real life situations should check out Urban Warfare Training Center or visit http://www.opsmedia.com
    You may want to make sure your website works before you start spamming

    But, real life situations, eh? Like the ones where 50 BGs storm into a bank, and you happen to be in the bathroom on the second floor of the atrium, so you happen to have amazing cover and access to your rectal holster? Or the one where you're driving down a (dirt) road in your Hummer and notice 30 Iraqi insurgents trying to break into an abandoned factory, and you need to infiltrate it and kill them all? :shock:

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    I loved Chicago back in the 80s. Actually, it is the only big city where I have ever been willing to live, albeit for a pretty short time. Unfortunately, it is in the People's Republic of Illinois meaning that I haven't been there in a number of years and don't intend to visit again in the forseeable future.

    I am happy to see that someone defended themselves in Illinois, let along Chicago, and didn't get charged with assault or some such crap.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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