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khmer_gentleman

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i looked everywhere but couldnt find the answer. i was just wondering if you can CC in an establishment that serves alcohol? and can you also consume alcohol if your CC'ing? if anyone knows the answer, can i also get a reference?
 

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You'll not find an answer as such because there is no law restrictingthe carrying of a firearm, concealed or openly, in an establishment that sells or dispenses alcoholic beverages (which includes State liquor stores).

If it's not made illegal by law, then it's perfectly legal.

Yes, a representative of the establishment may object and ask you to leave, but you can't get arrested just for lawfully carrying a personal protection device.
 

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Right Wing Wacko wrote:
However you can bet that if something happens and you end up using your weapon after consuming the slightest amount of alcohol that the DA will hang you out to dry!
Even more fun in the court room then.

I'm more impaired after only getting 5 hours of sleep than after having a beer or two.
 

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Right Wing Wacko wrote:
However you can bet that if something happens and you end up using your weapon after consuming the slightest amount of alcohol that the DA will hang you out to dry!

Oh really? So, a person would be legal to drive a vehicle........but not use a weapon?

Just what is a DA going to do?
 

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Steve in PA wrote:
Right Wing Wacko wrote:
However you can bet that if something happens and you end up using your weapon after consuming the slightest amount of alcohol that the DA will hang you out to dry!

Oh really? So, a person would be legal to drive a vehicle........but not use a weapon?

Just what is a DA going to do?
I can see that a DA might very well attempt to use it against a person, but I feel there's a high probability that it would get dismissed.
 

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imperialism2024 wrote:
Steve in PA wrote:
Right Wing Wacko wrote:
However you can bet that if something happens and you end up using your weapon after consuming the slightest amount of alcohol that the DA will hang you out to dry!

Oh really? So, a person would be legal to drive a vehicle........but not use a weapon?

Just what is a DA going to do?
I can see that a DA might very well attempt to use it against a person, but I feel there's a high probability that it would get dismissed.

Or, maybe not. Lawyers can paint a portrait of a story to a jury, if you know what I mean.

2nd Amendment.......Use it........Or, lose it!!:X
 

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Lot's of people have defended themselves with lethal force while, or shortly after, consuming alcohol. I've not heard of any getting "hung" for it.
As long as the shootingwas justified (IOW, the alcohol didn't affect your judgement) you should be fine.
 

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The only part that alcohol could play is if it affected your judgement. In that case, the DA would have evidence that contradicts what you are saying.
 

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Steve in PA wrote:
The only part that alcohol could play is if it affected your judgement. In that case, the DA would have evidence that contradicts what you are saying.

My point exactly! It will give a lawyer all the ammunition (no pun intended) he/she needs to portray to a jury a nice portrait of a story.

2nd Amendment......Use it.......Or, lose it!!:X
 

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Smurfologist wrote:
Steve in PA wrote:
The only part that alcohol could play is if it affected your judgement. In that case, the DA would have evidence that contradicts what you are saying.

My point exactly! It will give a lawyer all the ammunition (no pun intended) he/she needs to portray to a jury a nice portrait of a story.

2nd Amendment......Use it.......Or, lose it!!:X

Your missing the bigger point.
Your right, about what a lawyer may do and have surely done before. But, in reality, that "story" doesn'tpla out to the advantage of the lawyer.
I've never seen one case of someone loosing a self defense shooting case based SOLELY on their drinking. I've seen/heard of lots where the defendant was found to be justified that had been drinking.

Anything you can do to lower your chance of loosing in court is a good idea, and I certainly endorse it. No one is saying that drinking won't hurt your case. What we are saying is that it is NOT an automatic problem, like has been suggested here. In fact, it seems to be of little consequence provided a shoot was a good shoot.
 

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Pa. Patriot wrote:
Smurfologist wrote:
Steve in PA wrote:
The only part that alcohol could play is if it affected your judgement. In that case, the DA would have evidence that contradicts what you are saying.

My point exactly! It will give a lawyer all the ammunition (no pun intended) he/she needs to portray to a jury a nice portrait of a story.

2nd Amendment......Use it.......Or, lose it!!:X

Your missing the bigger point.
Your right, about what a lawyer may do and have surely done before. But, in reality, that "story" doesn'tpla out to the advantage of the lawyer.
I've never seen one case of someone loosing a self defense shooting case based SOLELY on their drinking. I've seen/heard of lots where the defendant was found to be justified that had been drinking.

Anything you can do to lower your chance of loosing in court is a good idea, and I certainly endorse it. No one is saying that drinking won't hurt your case. What we are saying is that it is NOT an automatic problem, like has been suggested here. In fact, it seems to be of little consequence provided a shoot was a good shoot.

Totally understand your point......and you, mine. We are on the same road, but, we took two different routes to get there (smile).

2nd Amendment......Use it........Or, lose it!!:X
 
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