Thors_Mitersaw
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I just got back from the class portion of the concealed carry course at the NRA range and I am a little steamed from the blatant pro-government and ANTI open carry bias presented there. Some of the tidbits that stick out in my mind (which are most likely the ones I responded to in kind... I cant help it, I cant tolerate horseshit):
venting over
edit:
they also made sure to plug packing.org but not opencarry.org
I am sure if I mentioned this site they would have shit a ******* pretentious NRA sized brick. At the same time I sorta laughed to myself and thought "yea, you better hope it isnt down again... HA"
I just got back from the class portion of the concealed carry course at the NRA range and I am a little steamed from the blatant pro-government and ANTI open carry bias presented there. Some of the tidbits that stick out in my mind (which are most likely the ones I responded to in kind... I cant help it, I cant tolerate horseshit):
- I should just tell a police officer I have a permit or that I have a gun
- Oh and a police officer is justified for suspicion or fear of a citizen who does not immediately tell him they are armed ... MY ARSE!
- (paraphrasing) 'some guys recently decided to make an issue of thier right to open carry and police harassed them blah blah blah i hate open carry guys and am using as many negative adjectives as possible in this statement'
- you cant carry ___________ in a establishment that serves alchohol. I made SURE this douchebag pointed out that you MAY open carry in a bar.
- Douchebag follows up with 'sure if you feel like a cowboy'. I took offense to this. Mainly because I wear western boots and have a handlebar mustache and a confederate belt buckle... Was he targeting this at me? With hindsight here, perhaps not, but at the time you bet your ass i though it was directed at me specifically
- I follow THAT up with well maybe I dont want to leave it in my car or disarm myself just because I want to kick a little shot of rum back with a friend while we watch the game
- (para again) 'theres no real reason to open carry, you dont want to let others know your armed'
- I didnt respond bcaue I KNEW I would not be able to contain my frustration with this one
- Northern virginia park registry or some horse shit: an example of local laws... supposedly... that shows that some local ordinances prevent carry
- A - is this true that I cant carry in these parks? I asked if state preemption smashed that and he said no.
- B - local laws are TRUMPED by state preemption!
- You cnt defend your property. Is this true? I thought Virginia was a state where that was allowed?
- You cant use or threaten force on anyone unless they are threatening you or another who has a right to be defended... who these mystical creatures of lore are he failed to define accurately but then again thats the nature of governments and thier damn laws... even in my own home? I highly doubt that.
- Whenever I asked a question abotu open carry it seemed to add a tick of frustration and fuel to thier incentive to mention it in a disparaging light in future portions of the course.
- Expect to be disarmed... grr... ok. Expect to be arrested?!?!??!! Is that honestly what citizens should expect as normal behavior from police in a self defense scenario? Or am I overreacting?
venting over
edit:
they also made sure to plug packing.org but not opencarry.org
I am sure if I mentioned this site they would have shit a ******* pretentious NRA sized brick. At the same time I sorta laughed to myself and thought "yea, you better hope it isnt down again... HA"