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    I was at the Newport News GOP mass meeting on Tuesday. I noticed a gentlemen wearing an empty holster. I was wondering why it was empty, but I didn't get a chance to speak with him. It was at the Midtown Community Center off of Jefferson, so carry should not have been prohibited. Anyone on here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45acpForMe View Post

    I have my work cut out for me convincing my daughters to OC. So far they both seem more comfortable with CC but will have to wait until they are 21 for a CHP unless we can get the laws changed and push constitutional carry.
    My girls are the same way. They don't like to draw attention to themselves. Anyone that has met Bridget can attest that her Glock 21 was "rather large" when she Open Carried. She's only 5' tall. She wants an LCR or Taurus 709 for her upcoming 21st birthday. She's also shopping for concealed-type holsters (IWB) rather than a purse for the reasons stated previously.
    "If I know that I am headed for a fight, I want something larger with more power, preferably crew-served.
    However, like most of us, as I go through my daily life, I carry something a bit more compact, with a lot less power."
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSC 45ACP View Post
    My girls are the same way. They don't like to draw attention to themselves. Anyone that has met Bridget can attest that her Glock 21 was "rather large" when she Open Carried. She's only 5' tall. She wants an LCR or Taurus 709 for her upcoming 21st birthday. She's also shopping for concealed-type holsters (IWB) rather than a purse for the reasons stated previously.
    When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force.

    I found that on this site. It explains why I open carry pretty well. I don't remember who said it or where it's from origionally. But on an unrelated note I need to take my new XDM to a range. I was thinking of going to The Marksman this Saturday anyone know a better range or want to go with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSC 45ACP View Post
    My girls are the same way. They don't like to draw attention to themselves. Anyone that has met Bridget can attest that her Glock 21 was "rather large" when she Open Carried. She's only 5' tall. She wants an LCR or Taurus 709 for her upcoming 21st birthday. She's also shopping for concealed-type holsters (IWB) rather than a purse for the reasons stated previously.
    I recommend the LC9, My aunt got one and I just bought one(lay way) Very good gun, my aunt has the houge grips on her's and I have a set waiting to put on. I don't know if she wants to carry a BUG or not, but I recommend it. I watched a video of this guy, says he carrys 3 to 4 because of postions. Your possible attacker and if you cannot get to one gun or not due to angle/etc.... I recommend a BUG.

    OC'ed to walmart the other day, it was clear skies then started to down pour. I came out of walmart and it was rainning like crazy, but clear skies just 2 miles the other way towards home. Got wet lol.
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    How come a DUI you can get your driver licence back, which it is a privilege. But if commiting a felon, even something non violent like stealing, you are denied your constitutional rights for the rest of your life?
    If you don't support the Second Amendment to the Constitution, what other parts of the Constitution do you reject?
    More restrictions on guns? how about restrictions on chainsaws and knives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSC 45ACP View Post
    My girls are the same way. They don't like to draw attention to themselves. Anyone that has met Bridget can attest that her Glock 21 was "rather large" when she Open Carried. She's only 5' tall. She wants an LCR or Taurus 709 for her upcoming 21st birthday. She's also shopping for concealed-type holsters (IWB) rather than a purse for the reasons stated previously.
    Also forgive me for saying but given the ages of your daughters I think they draw attention with or without open carrying. Just my opinion but of course I've never met them. Just consider the young adult male population of Hampton Roads. I think it's still mostly military right? So a young woman is going to draw attention regardless of a weapon or not. Just the opinion of a younger military male.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc_Smith View Post
    Also forgive me for saying but given the ages of your daughters I think they draw attention with or without open carrying. Just my opinion but of course I've never met them. Just consider the young adult male population of Hampton Roads. I think it's still mostly military right? So a young woman is going to draw attention regardless of a weapon or not. Just the opinion of a younger military male.
    Being military or young has little to do with it. Some of us have just learned to be more circumspect - still appreciative though

    BTW - you haven't seen .45ACP's "agreement" if you wish to date his daughter(s) I take it.
    A comical (?) list of conditions and ends with the statement, "If you hurt her in any way, I will hunt you to the ends of this earth" or something similar to that
    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Being military or young has little to do with it. Some of us have just learned to be more circumspect - still appreciative though

    BTW - you haven't seen .45ACP's "agreement" if you wish to date his daughter(s) I take it.
    A comical (?) list of conditions and ends with the statement, "If you hurt her in any way, I will hunt you to the ends of this earth" or something similar to that
    Well I was simply saying that a young woman in a city with a population of young military males will draw attention regardless simply based on how young military males are. Of course I am stereotyping them but I believe I am justified in that regard.

    As for the whole dating agreement I have not seen it. But I have also not met him or his daughters so I wouldn't even consider dating them yet. But I would love to meet other like minded people in my area. Anyone feel like a late lunch or early dinner tonight in the Newport News/Hampton/Yorktown area tonight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc_Smith View Post
    Well I was simply saying that a young woman in a city with a population of young military males will draw attention regardless simply based on how young military males are. Of course I am stereotyping them but I believe I am justified in that regard.

    As for the whole dating agreement I have not seen it. But I have also not met him or his daughters so I wouldn't even consider dating them yet. But I would love to meet other like minded people in my area. Anyone feel like a late lunch or early dinner tonight in the Newport News/Hampton/Yorktown area tonight?
    My syntax was faulty when I said, "you haven't seen .45ACP's "agreement" if you wish to date his daughter(s) I take it."

    Should have said, "you haven't seen .45 ACP's "agreement", I take it. If someone wishes to date his daughter........"

    Intended to be light hearted, not critical of your post in any way - to which I concur BTW.
    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc_Smith View Post
    When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force.

    I found that on this site. It explains why I open carry pretty well. I don't remember who said it or where it's from origionally. But on an unrelated note I need to take my new XDM to a range. I was thinking of going to The Marksman this Saturday anyone know a better range or want to go with?

    That is Marko Kloos' essay - the one that Major Caudill plagerized and Ted Nugent got to pay copyright infringement penalties for using without permission. The whole thing is enshrined at http://munchkinwrangler.wordpress.co...-civilization/ .

    Can't remember who it is, but someone around here has it in their signature line.

    stay safe.

    ETA - it's nuc65's sig line!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    My syntax was faulty when I said, "you haven't seen .45ACP's "agreement" if you wish to date his daughter(s) I take it."

    Should have said, "you haven't seen .45 ACP's "agreement", I take it. If someone wishes to date his daughter........"

    Intended to be light hearted, not critical of your post in any way - to which I concur BTW.
    His "agreement" makes these http://www.websitement-tm.com/Darwin...y_daughter.htm seem downright lighthearted. But then I've been formally introduced to the daughters and truely believe they are worth protecting.

    stay safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    My syntax was faulty when I said, "you haven't seen .45ACP's "agreement" if you wish to date his daughter(s) I take it."

    Should have said, "you haven't seen .45 ACP's "agreement", I take it. If someone wishes to date his daughter........"

    Intended to be light hearted, not critical of your post in any way - to which I concur BTW.
    Oh please don't misunderstand I did take t light hearted so dont worry. That's the one problem with the Internet you can't see facial expression. I would love to see this agreement and meet the family. The only reason I stereotype young military males is because I used to be one. Not as bad as most but I indeed was. Its something I have spent a lot of time working to fix about myself and get back to my roots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    His "agreement" makes these http://www.websitement-tm.com/Darwin...y_daughter.htm seem downright lighthearted. But then I've been formally introduced to the daughters and truely believe they are worth protecting.

    stay safe.
    Yes my version of the application includes the linked rules (with some slight clarification). Eg, there is no reason to touch my daughter, remove your hands from her or I will remove them from you! Where the red is added for clarity such that a boy isn't under the wrong impression that I will simply remove his hands from my daughter's body. :-)

    BTW: Mike and I are often confused for some reason. I am 45acpForMe and Mike is MSC 45acp but we BOTH have daughters! :-)

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    HEIGHT_______ WEIGHT_______ IQ_______ GPA_________
    SOCIAL SECURITY #______________ DRIVERS LICENSE #_____________
    BOY SCOUT RANK AND BADGES___________________________________
    HOME ADDRESS___________________ CITY/STATE________ ZIP_____
    Do you have parents? ___Yes ___No
    Is one male and the other female? ___Yes ___No
    If No, explain:
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    ACCESSORIES SECTION:
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    D. A pickup with a mattress in the back? __Yes __No
    E. A tattoo? __Yes __No
    F. Do you have an earring, nose ring, pierced tongue, pierced cheek or a belly button ring? __Yes __No
    (IF YOU ANSWERED 'YES' TO ANY OF THE ABOVE, DISCONTINUE APPLICATION AND
    LEAVE PREMISES IMMEDIATELY. I SUGGEST RUNNING.)
    ESSAY SECTION:
    In 50 words or less, what does 'LATE' mean to you?
    __________________________________________________ ____________
    In 50 words or less, what does 'DON'T TOUCH MY DAUGHTER' mean to you?
    __________________________________________________ ____________
    In 50 words or less, what does 'ABSTINENCE' mean to you?
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    REFERENCES SECTION:
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    When would be the best time to interview your:
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    mother? _____________
    pastor? _____________
    SHORT-ANSWER SECTION:
    Answer by filling in the blank. Please answer freely, all answers are confidential.
    A: If I were shot, the last place I would want to be shot would be:
    __________________________________________________ ____________
    B: If I were beaten, the last bone I would want broken is my:
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    C: A woman's place is in the:
    __________________________________________________ ____________
    D: The one thing I hope this application does not ask me about is:
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    E. What do you want to do IF you grow up? ___________________________
    F. When I meet a girl, the thing I always notice about her first is:
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    F. What is the current going rate of a hotel room? __________________
    I SWEAR THAT ALL INFORMATION SUPPLIED ABOVE IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE
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    AND RED HOT POKERS.
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    To prepare yourself, start studying Daddy's Rules for Dating.

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    Rule One:
    If you pull into my driveway and honk you'd better be delivering a package, because you're sure not picking anything up.

    Rule Two:
    You do not touch my daughter in front of me. You may glance at her, so
    long as you do not peer at anything below her neck. If you cannot keep
    your eyes or hands off of my daughter's body, I will remove them from you.

    Rule Three:
    I am aware that it is considered fashionable for boys of your age to
    wear their trousers so loosely that they appear to be falling off their
    hips. Please don't take this as an insult, but you and all of your
    friends are complete idiots. Still, I want to be fair and open minded
    about this issue, so I propose this compromise: You may come to the door
    with your underwear showing and your pants ten sizes too big, and I will
    not object. However, in order to ensure that your clothes do not, in fact
    come off during the course of your date with my daughter, I will take my
    electric nail gun and fasten your trousers securely in place to your waist.

    Rule Four:
    I'm sure you've been told that in today's world, sex without utilizing
    a 'Barrier method' of some kind can kill you. Let me elaborate, when it
    comes to sex, I am the barrier, and I will kill you.

    Rule Five:
    It is usually understood that in order for us to get to know each
    other, we should talk about sports, politics, and other issues of the
    day. Please do not do this. The only information I require from you is an
    indication of when you expect to have my daughter safely back at my
    house, and the only word I need from you on this subject is: 'early.'

    Rule Six:
    I have no doubt you are a popular fellow, with many opportunities to
    date other girls. This is fine with me as long as it is okay with my
    daughter. Otherwise, once you have gone out with my little girl, you will
    continue to date no one but her until she is finished with you. If you
    make her cry, I will make you cry.

    Rule Seven:
    As you stand in my front hallway, waiting for my daughter to appear,
    and more than an hour goes by, do not sigh and fidget. If you want to be
    on time for the movie, you should not be dating. My daughter is putting
    on her makeup, a process than can take longer than painting the Golden
    Gate Bridge. Instead of just standing there, why don't you do something
    useful, like changing the oil in my car?

    Rule Eight:
    The following places are not appropriate for a date with my daughter:
    Places where there are beds, sofas, or anything softer than a wooden
    stool. Places where there is darkness. Places where there is dancing,
    holding hands, or happiness. Places where the ambient temperature is warm
    enough to induce my daughter to wear shorts, tank tops, midriff T-shirts,
    or anything other than overalls, a sweater, and a goose down parka -
    zipped up to her throat. Movies with a strong romantic or sexual themes
    are to be avoided; movies which feature chain saws are okay. Hockey games
    are okay. Old folks homes are better.

    Rule Nine:
    Do not lie to me. I may appear to be a potbellied, balding,
    middle-aged, dimwitted has-been. But on issues relating to my daughter, I
    am the all-knowing, merciless god of your universe. If I ask you where
    you are going and with whom, you have one chance to tell me the truth,
    the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I have a shotgun, a shovel,
    and five acres behind the house. Do not trifle with me.

    Rule Ten:
    Be afraid. Be very afraid. It takes very little for me to mistake the
    sound of your car in the driveway for a chopper coming in over a rice
    paddy near Hanoi . When my Agent Orange starts acting up, the voices in
    my head frequently tell me to clean the guns as I wait for you to bring
    my daughter home. As soon as you pull into the driveway you should exit
    the car with both hands in plain sight. Speak the perimeter password,
    announce in a clear voice that you have brought my daughter home safely
    and early, then return to your car - there is no need for you to come
    inside. The camouflaged face at the window is mine.
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    I am disqualified because of my tattoos? I'm heartbroken. That's the only thing keeping me from applying though. Might that be waiverable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc_Smith View Post
    I am disqualified because of my tattoos? I'm heartbroken. That's the only thing keeping me from applying though. Might that be waiverable?
    Another OC asked about the tatoos and why they were on the list. I simply responded that my daughters are 13 and 15 so anyone old enough to have a tatoo AIN'T dating MY daughter! I may revise the rules as they age though. :-)
    "Cogito, ergo armatum sum: I think, therefore I am armed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45acpForMe View Post
    Another OC asked about the tatoos and why they were on the list. I simply responded that my daughters are 13 and 15 so anyone old enough to have a tatoo AIN'T dating MY daughter! I may revise the rules as they age though. :-)
    Well that seems more than reasonable!

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    IQ_______ GPA_________
    SOCIAL SECURITY #______________ DRIVERS LICENSE #_____________
    BOY SCOUT RANK AND BADGES___________________________________

    lol, @ SS # and IQ+GPA LOL thats too funny.

    Oh and my boy scout rank?


    Maybe they should just fill out a 4473 form
    Last edited by ocholsteroc; 03-22-2012 at 02:19 PM.
    How come a DUI you can get your driver licence back, which it is a privilege. But if commiting a felon, even something non violent like stealing, you are denied your constitutional rights for the rest of your life?
    If you don't support the Second Amendment to the Constitution, what other parts of the Constitution do you reject?
    More restrictions on guns? how about restrictions on chainsaws and knives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45acpForMe View Post
    Yes my version of the application includes the linked rules (with some slight clarification). Eg, there is no reason to touch my daughter, remove your hands from her or I will remove them from you! Where the red is added for clarity such that a boy isn't under the wrong impression that I will simply remove his hands from my daughter's body. :-)

    BTW: Mike and I are often confused for some reason. I am 45acpForMe and Mike is MSC 45acp but we BOTH have daughters! :-)

    APPLICATION FOR PERMISSION TO DATE MY DAUGHTER
    NOTE: This application will be incomplete and rejected, unless
    accompanied by a complete financial statement, job history, lineage, and
    current medical report from your doctor.
    NAME________________________________ DATE OF BIRTH_____________
    HEIGHT_______ WEIGHT_______ IQ_______ GPA_________
    SOCIAL SECURITY #______________ DRIVERS LICENSE #_____________
    BOY SCOUT RANK AND BADGES___________________________________
    HOME ADDRESS___________________ CITY/STATE________ ZIP_____
    Do you have parents? ___Yes ___No
    Is one male and the other female? ___Yes ___No
    If No, explain:
    __________________________________________________ ___________
    Number of years they have been married ____
    If less than your age, explain
    __________________________________________________
    ACCESSORIES SECTION:
    A. Do you own or have access to a van? __Yes __No
    B. A truck with oversized tires? __Yes __No
    C. A waterbed? __Yes __No
    D. A pickup with a mattress in the back? __Yes __No
    E. A tattoo? __Yes __No
    F. Do you have an earring, nose ring, pierced tongue, pierced cheek or a belly button ring? __Yes __No
    (IF YOU ANSWERED 'YES' TO ANY OF THE ABOVE, DISCONTINUE APPLICATION AND
    LEAVE PREMISES IMMEDIATELY. I SUGGEST RUNNING.)
    ESSAY SECTION:
    In 50 words or less, what does 'LATE' mean to you?
    __________________________________________________ ____________
    In 50 words or less, what does 'DON'T TOUCH MY DAUGHTER' mean to you?
    __________________________________________________ ____________
    In 50 words or less, what does 'ABSTINENCE' mean to you?
    __________________________________________________ ____________
    REFERENCES SECTION:
    Church you attend __________________________________________
    How often you attend _______________________________________
    When would be the best time to interview your:
    father? _____________
    mother? _____________
    pastor? _____________
    SHORT-ANSWER SECTION:
    Answer by filling in the blank. Please answer freely, all answers are confidential.
    A: If I were shot, the last place I would want to be shot would be:
    __________________________________________________ ____________
    B: If I were beaten, the last bone I would want broken is my:
    __________________________________________________ ____________
    C: A woman's place is in the:
    __________________________________________________ ____________
    D: The one thing I hope this application does not ask me about is:
    __________________________________________________ ____________
    E. What do you want to do IF you grow up? ___________________________
    F. When I meet a girl, the thing I always notice about her first is:
    __________________________________________________ ____________
    F. What is the current going rate of a hotel room? __________________
    I SWEAR THAT ALL INFORMATION SUPPLIED ABOVE IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE
    BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE UNDER PENALTY OF DEATH, DISMEMBERMENT, NATIVE
    AMERICAN ANT TORTURE, CRUCIFIXION, ELECTROCUTION, CHINESE WATER TORTURE,
    AND RED HOT POKERS.
    __________________________________________________ _______
    Applicant's Signature (that means sign your name, moron!)
    _______________________________ ________________________________
    Mother's Signature Father's Signature
    _______________________________ ________________________________
    Pastor/Priest/Rabbi ........................ State Representative/Congressman

    Thank you for your interest, and it had better be genuine and
    non-sexual. Please allow four to six years for processing.
    You will be contacted in writing if you are approved. Please do not
    try to call or write (since you probably can't, and it would cause you
    injury). If your application is rejected, you will be notified by two
    gentleman wearing white ties carrying violin cases. (you might watch your back).

    To prepare yourself, start studying Daddy's Rules for Dating.

    Daddy's Rules for Dating
    Your dad's rules for your boyfriend (or for you if you're a guy) :

    Rule One:
    If you pull into my driveway and honk you'd better be delivering a package, because you're sure not picking anything up.

    Rule Two:
    You do not touch my daughter in front of me. You may glance at her, so
    long as you do not peer at anything below her neck. If you cannot keep
    your eyes or hands off of my daughter's body, I will remove them from you.

    Rule Three:
    I am aware that it is considered fashionable for boys of your age to
    wear their trousers so loosely that they appear to be falling off their
    hips. Please don't take this as an insult, but you and all of your
    friends are complete idiots. Still, I want to be fair and open minded
    about this issue, so I propose this compromise: You may come to the door
    with your underwear showing and your pants ten sizes too big, and I will
    not object. However, in order to ensure that your clothes do not, in fact
    come off during the course of your date with my daughter, I will take my
    electric nail gun and fasten your trousers securely in place to your waist.

    Rule Four:
    I'm sure you've been told that in today's world, sex without utilizing
    a 'Barrier method' of some kind can kill you. Let me elaborate, when it
    comes to sex, I am the barrier, and I will kill you.

    Rule Five:
    It is usually understood that in order for us to get to know each
    other, we should talk about sports, politics, and other issues of the
    day. Please do not do this. The only information I require from you is an
    indication of when you expect to have my daughter safely back at my
    house, and the only word I need from you on this subject is: 'early.'

    Rule Six:
    I have no doubt you are a popular fellow, with many opportunities to
    date other girls. This is fine with me as long as it is okay with my
    daughter. Otherwise, once you have gone out with my little girl, you will
    continue to date no one but her until she is finished with you. If you
    make her cry, I will make you cry.

    Rule Seven:
    As you stand in my front hallway, waiting for my daughter to appear,
    and more than an hour goes by, do not sigh and fidget. If you want to be
    on time for the movie, you should not be dating. My daughter is putting
    on her makeup, a process than can take longer than painting the Golden
    Gate Bridge. Instead of just standing there, why don't you do something
    useful, like changing the oil in my car?

    Rule Eight:
    The following places are not appropriate for a date with my daughter:
    Places where there are beds, sofas, or anything softer than a wooden
    stool. Places where there is darkness. Places where there is dancing,
    holding hands, or happiness. Places where the ambient temperature is warm
    enough to induce my daughter to wear shorts, tank tops, midriff T-shirts,
    or anything other than overalls, a sweater, and a goose down parka -
    zipped up to her throat. Movies with a strong romantic or sexual themes
    are to be avoided; movies which feature chain saws are okay. Hockey games
    are okay. Old folks homes are better.

    Rule Nine:
    Do not lie to me. I may appear to be a potbellied, balding,
    middle-aged, dimwitted has-been. But on issues relating to my daughter, I
    am the all-knowing, merciless god of your universe. If I ask you where
    you are going and with whom, you have one chance to tell me the truth,
    the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I have a shotgun, a shovel,
    and five acres behind the house. Do not trifle with me.

    Rule Ten:
    Be afraid. Be very afraid. It takes very little for me to mistake the
    sound of your car in the driveway for a chopper coming in over a rice
    paddy near Hanoi . When my Agent Orange starts acting up, the voices in
    my head frequently tell me to clean the guns as I wait for you to bring
    my daughter home. As soon as you pull into the driveway you should exit
    the car with both hands in plain sight. Speak the perimeter password,
    announce in a clear voice that you have brought my daughter home safely
    and early, then return to your car - there is no need for you to come
    inside. The camouflaged face at the window is mine.
    Bahahaha!
    Love this! Consider it stolen!
    “For life, liberty and Little Lizzie.” - John Connor (2005)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mk4 View Post
    Bahahaha!
    Love this! Consider it stolen!
    Well it's gonna be impossible to date anymore with fathers like you guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mk4 View Post
    Bahahaha!
    Love this! Consider it stolen!
    I wasn't the originator just tweeked it a little. So consider it shared. :-)

    Doc_Smith, the reason we are Fathers-like-us is because we were once young men ourselves and are determined that no one like us will get within the outer perimeter near my daughter.

    The real trick is to protect them until they are old enough to discearn numbskulls for themselves. At 18 or 22 (whenever they move/are-kicked out) is the time for dating to start. :-)

    Been CC-ing around town today because I keep forgetting to strap on a gun. I guess I will go do that now before I forget again. See what happens when you forget to put on your gun first thing in the morning?!? Age is starting to catch up to me and whack me upside the head/body/hairline/memory/what-was-I-saying?
    "Cogito, ergo armatum sum: I think, therefore I am armed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45acpForMe View Post
    I wasn't the originator just tweeked it a little. So consider it shared. :-)

    Doc_Smith, the reason we are Fathers-like-us is because we were once young men ourselves and are determined that no one like us will get within the outer perimeter near my daughter.

    The real trick is to protect them until they are old enough to discearn numbskulls for themselves. At 18 or 22 (whenever they move/are-kicked out) is the time for dating to start. :-)

    Been CC-ing around town today because I keep forgetting to strap on a gun. I guess I will go do that now before I forget again. See what happens when you forget to put on your gun first thing in the morning?!? Age is starting to catch up to me and whack me upside the head/body/hairline/memory/what-was-I-saying?
    Don't feel bad. I have every intention of being the same way if I ever have a daughter. It's bad enough I have a new niece. But luckily I got my little sister into shooting. As for your memory I know how you feel. Two deployments have left me with a nice case of MTBI. Headaches and memory loss is wonderful! Gotta love it at 23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    His "agreement" makes these http://www.websitement-tm.com/Darwin...y_daughter.htm seem downright lighthearted. But then I've been formally introduced to the daughters and truely believe they are worth protecting.

    stay safe.
    Those are hysterical! I figure that I have a few more years before I worry but plan on hanging on to these. But then again, I've always been fond of the "Uncle Buck" approach (especially the amateur dentistry).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45acpForMe View Post
    Yes my version of the application includes the linked rules (with some slight clarification).
    Yeah, and that's just pretty darn funny as well. Not that I thought you were joking, mind you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45acpForMe View Post
    I wasn't the originator just tweeked it a little. So consider it shared. :-)

    Doc_Smith, the reason we are Fathers-like-us is because we were once young men ourselves and are determined that no one like us will get within the outer perimeter near my daughter.

    The real trick is to protect them until they are old enough to discearn numbskulls for themselves. At 18 or 22 (whenever they move/are-kicked out) is the time for dating to start. :-)

    Been CC-ing around town today because I keep forgetting to strap on a gun. I guess I will go do that now before I forget again. See what happens when you forget to put on your gun first thing in the morning?!? Age is starting to catch up to me and whack me upside the head/body/hairline/memory/what-was-I-saying?
    Hmmm....my daughter is 10. I've been telling her for years that the legal age to date without a parental permission is 35. I'm confident that I will be long since senile by that point.

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    Gotta to love the occasional twists ( won't say highjacks) in these threads - to which I myself contributed.

    Am reminded of the quote "We were young once and soldiers." We have been there and done that and don't want our children to have to go through the same. Prepare them well gentlemen and ladies, for they will experience some of the same stressors.

    I did not OC in Hampton Roads at all today..........................was doing so in Richmond.
    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time.

    Yata hey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc_Smith View Post
    Don't feel bad. I have every intention of being the same way if I ever have a daughter. It's bad enough I have a new niece. But luckily I got my little sister into shooting. As for your memory I know how you feel. Two deployments have left me with a nice case of MTBI. Headaches and memory loss is wonderful! Gotta love it at 23.
    MTBI, (mild,moderate,massive-trauma-brain-injury)? My daughter has now fully recovered (at least that is what she says) from her concussion. It only took 6-7 months and her symptoms included a list of 12-15 different things from headache, trouble concentrating, moodyness, nausea, dizzieness, etc. I hope you heal fully.

    OC-ed to Atlantic Coast Tumbling (and True Value, Home Depot yesterday) no issues.

    Yes, Grapeshot, I enjoy the occassional thread hijack in that it lets me get to know others and their sense of humor (lack there-of) and background. It is actually pleasant to find out that there is a young crop of OC-ers coming up that know their 2A rights "and" exercise them. I started late after being conditioned living in NY, CA, MD-for-a-summer before finally winding up here.
    "Cogito, ergo armatum sum: I think, therefore I am armed."

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