Agent 47
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A new Everett PD cop was just in my shop, he identified himself as a new recruit with Everett PDwho will be graduating from the academy around Thanksgiving. I asked him what kind of training they received in regards to OC. He said that the legality of it was if someone saw you and were scared then it would be illegal. I asked him if this was on grounds of RCW 9.41.270 and he said yeah and then quoted the law as "wears a weapon in a manner that causes alarm" I asked him " Is it taught at the academy that if someone is frightened when they see a gunin a holster on my hip I have broken the law?" He said its kind of a grey area and we would need to see whats going on if someone called and saida person is walking down the street with a gun. I quoted RCW 9.41.270 to him in its entirety and asked " So if I am walking down thestreet minding my own business with a gun locked in its holster have I shown an intent to intimidate another or caused alarm for anyones safety keeping in mind that a gun locked into a holster is incapable of endangering the safety of anyone. He said "no I guess not, but we are taught to look for possible trouble and if you walk down the street in broad daylight with a gun strapped to your hip it is something we would investigate. I meanifyou lived in Texas you could strap on a six shooter and a cowboy hat and walk down the street but this is Washington."I said " Actually in Texas it is illegal to OC" his reply was " well, you know what I mean if someone is scared it is bad and people in Washington get scared by that kind of thing." I informed him that I have been open carrying for over three years and nobody has ever acted scared by it. This surprised him I guess he thought the questions I was asking were just hypothetical and not something I or anyone else would actually dare to do. Pointing to the gun on my hip he asked, "You go walking around like that?!?" when I replied in the affirmative he said well I would advise you to just cover it up you are just asking for trouble from cops. I asked,"aren't cops trained to enforce the law?" he said " Yeah'' I asked so if OC is legal then why would cops harass me when I am not breaking any laws." The conversation was starting to turn into an argument so he decided he needed to go. This frustrates me, They are teaching officers to use fragments of a law taken out of context to harass citizens and try and abolish a perfectly legal practice. My bloods boiling, I gotta go shoot something.. BRB.
A new Everett PD cop was just in my shop, he identified himself as a new recruit with Everett PDwho will be graduating from the academy around Thanksgiving. I asked him what kind of training they received in regards to OC. He said that the legality of it was if someone saw you and were scared then it would be illegal. I asked him if this was on grounds of RCW 9.41.270 and he said yeah and then quoted the law as "wears a weapon in a manner that causes alarm" I asked him " Is it taught at the academy that if someone is frightened when they see a gunin a holster on my hip I have broken the law?" He said its kind of a grey area and we would need to see whats going on if someone called and saida person is walking down the street with a gun. I quoted RCW 9.41.270 to him in its entirety and asked " So if I am walking down thestreet minding my own business with a gun locked in its holster have I shown an intent to intimidate another or caused alarm for anyones safety keeping in mind that a gun locked into a holster is incapable of endangering the safety of anyone. He said "no I guess not, but we are taught to look for possible trouble and if you walk down the street in broad daylight with a gun strapped to your hip it is something we would investigate. I meanifyou lived in Texas you could strap on a six shooter and a cowboy hat and walk down the street but this is Washington."I said " Actually in Texas it is illegal to OC" his reply was " well, you know what I mean if someone is scared it is bad and people in Washington get scared by that kind of thing." I informed him that I have been open carrying for over three years and nobody has ever acted scared by it. This surprised him I guess he thought the questions I was asking were just hypothetical and not something I or anyone else would actually dare to do. Pointing to the gun on my hip he asked, "You go walking around like that?!?" when I replied in the affirmative he said well I would advise you to just cover it up you are just asking for trouble from cops. I asked,"aren't cops trained to enforce the law?" he said " Yeah'' I asked so if OC is legal then why would cops harass me when I am not breaking any laws." The conversation was starting to turn into an argument so he decided he needed to go. This frustrates me, They are teaching officers to use fragments of a law taken out of context to harass citizens and try and abolish a perfectly legal practice. My bloods boiling, I gotta go shoot something.. BRB.