School Zones

Something does not jive.

They reference United States v. Morrison 2000 and talk about lack ofthe authority to enact such laws. I do not think it is in force.

Then the section you pasted is rather confusing. What is this "License" they speak of?

"before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license"

Then is says the police need to verify the person is "qualified" to receive it. I would submit that the police would be qualified based on their profession since they cannot have such disqualifications and still be able to do the job.

If a cop could not possess a gun.... he could not be on the job.

Lastly... it appears that if you HAVE a license.... you can be "in the zone."

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LEO 229 wrote:

Something does not jive.

They reference United States v. Morrison 2000 and talk about lack ofthe authority to enact such laws. I do not think it is in force.

Then the section you pasted is rather confusing. What is this "License" they speak of?

"before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license"

Then is says the police need to verify the person is "qualified" to receive it. I would submit that the police would be qualified based on their profession since they cannot have such disqualifications and still be able to do the job.

If a cop could not possess a gun.... he could not be on the job.

Lastly... it appears that if you HAVE a license.... you can be "in the zone."

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LEO 229,

Yes your argument is logical, butbeing a police officer does notmeet the licensing requirement of GFSZA.

GFSZA is a federal law.GFSZA exempts those with valid permits from GFSZA, so in Virginia those with a CHP are exempt from GFSZA. Off duty LEOs are not exempt.

The Commonwealth does not have Gun Free School Zones, only the prohibition on carry at schools, school property and school buses.

So LEO 229 if you did not have a CHP and carried within 1000 feet of a school you would be committing a federal felony, even though the Commonwealth has the good sense toallow you to carry insidethe school even when off duty.

The citizen that obtains a CHP and is exempted from GFSZA and walks her child to the front door of the school while carrying (on school property) is committing a felony under the Commonwealths law.

Stupid confusing gun laws can make criminals of us all.

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LEO 229 wrote:

Something does not jive.

They reference United States v. Morrison 2000 and talk about lack ofthe authority to enact such laws. I do not think it is in force.

Then the section you pasted is rather confusing. What is this "License" they speak of?

"before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license"

Then is says the police need to verify the person is "qualified" to receive it. I would submit that the police would be qualified based on their profession since they cannot have such disqualifications and still be able to do the job.

If a cop could not possess a gun.... he could not be on the job.

Lastly... it appears that if you HAVE a license.... you can be "in the zone."

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LEO 229,

Yes your argument is logical, butbeing a police officer does notmeet the licensing requirement of GFSZA.

GFSZA is a federal law.GFSZA exempts those with valid permits from GFSZA, so in Virginia those with a CHP are exempt from GFSZA. Off duty LEOs are not exempt.

The Commonwealth does not have Gun Free School Zones, only the prohibition on carry at schools, school property and school buses.

So LEO 229 if you did not have a CHP and carried within 1000 feet of a school you would be committing a federal felony, even though the Commonwealth has the good sense toallow you to carry insidethe school even when off duty.

The citizen that obtains a CHP and is exempted from GFSZA and walks her child to the front door of the school while carrying (on school property) is committing a felony under the Commonwealths law.

Stupid confusing gun laws can make criminals of us all.

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The ability to carry in a school off duty just changed a few years ago. It was not in the code section and I was breaking to law.

However.. Knowing that I am a member of a brotherhood and CCing anyway... I doubt I would have ever been caught or charged. I enjoy my employee discount.

Since the police are the agency that certify those that have this "Licence" I will assume that I can certify myself and that my credentials are my "Licence." Done deal!!

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LEO 229 wrote:

Something does not jive.

They reference United States v. Morrison 2000 and talk about lack ofthe authority to enact such laws. I do not think it is in force.

Then the section you pasted is rather confusing. What is this "License" they speak of?

"before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license"

Then is says the police need to verify the person is "qualified" to receive it. I would submit that the police would be qualified based on their profession since they cannot have such disqualifications and still be able to do the job.

If a cop could not possess a gun.... he could not be on the job.

Lastly... it appears that if you HAVE a license.... you can be "in the zone."

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So LEO 229 if you did not have a CHP and carried within 1000 feet of a school you would be committing a federal felony, even though the Commonwealth has the good sense toallow you to carry insidethe school even when off duty.

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LEO 229,

Are you trying to pull a HankT on me??

I think the motivation of your post above wasto try to flush out all of the "Damn LEOs think they are above the law comments"

We all know that in the Commonwealth there isonly the CHP, which is either issued by the VSP or the circuit court.

My post was not intended to make some left handed accusation against you or other LEOs. Please open carry or conceal carry off duty wherever you desire. It can only make our society safer.The postwas intended to show the absolute absurdity of federal legislation such as the GFSZA.

IMHO when asked for a license I think that a copy of the bill of rights would suffice, after all we don't need a license to exercise our rights.:celebrate:celebrate:celebrate

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