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++1 Yeah since when do you have the "right" not to be offended. I could care less if someone else is offended by how I dress or if I wear a gun on my hip.This country is dying of political correctness. We have the right to keep and BEAR arms. We can obtain the PRIVELLAGE to conceal arms. Some people do not have the option to conceal, so they must openly carry. If seeing my pistol makes somebody "scared" or "uneasy" then tough. They should be more afraid of my big black 3000 pound automobile. It is certainly more dangerous than my holstered Glock.
+1imperialism2024 wrote:[font=verdana,helvetica][size=-1]The full text puts the comments in more context:KEEP IT IN YOUR PANTS, PARDNERPushing your luck is carrying a concealed handgun without a license to conceal. Pushing your luck is remaining unarmed in circumstances where it would be prudent to be prepared.[/size][/font][font=verdana,helvetica][size=-1]But I don't believe in pushing my luck. [/size][/font]
[font=verdana,helvetica][size=-1]And I don't believe in being rude. [/size][/font]
[font=verdana,helvetica][size=-1]And I think there might be a better approach than rubbing people's faces in a holstered gun on the hip at the mall. That starts conversations about guns, but more often than not it's not going to be a good conversation. [/size][/font]
Being rude is an action- the mere presense of a firearm- having an inanimate object in your possession is not rude, unlessone starts pointing it at people with no good G*d damn reason.
I am not responsible for other people's irrational fear of a lawfully carried firearm.
When a gunowner choses to conceal for the sake of placating people's irrational fears, they are helping the anti-gun opposition in reducing the tolerance of lawful gun owners. On the flip-side, when a firearm is openly carried in a lawful manner, the reaction in most cases, even here in California, is that the action is assumedto be'not prohibited' or the individualis authorized to do so.
This exposure of lawful gun owners helps demystify gun ownership and open a dialogue with those who are genuinely open minded. The 'negative conversations' this writer is refering to, are undoubtly going to be instigated by those who have already been indoctrinated into a belief that guns are inherently bad, no matter who owns or carries them. So, should we be silenced for fear that we will offend someone with our principles? Should gun owners be 'closeted' so that ourchoices can be excoriated and subjected to intolerance without regular and conspicuous dissent?
Screw that. That is exactly the reason why we are in the situation where the Supreme court has to rule on whether the second is a individual right or a collective one. When you fail to excersize the second as an individual right, the law will seize this as the opportunity to legislate as if it is not.
A final note- Perhaps Im being too harsh on the writer (and certainly on my local Sheriff), but you are either pro-gun or pro-gun control. As a strict constructionist, my view is that there is no grey area or reason to compromise when the second tells us that the right of the people shall not be infringed.
I get the same reaction when I tell people I'm from Massachusetts.They always assume I live in Boston.Pa. Patriot wrote:Uh... I was born 'n raised in upstate NY (Cattskills) But thanks
Well, no way I would have known that.
I always find it amusing when I tell someone I use to live in New York they immediately assume thecity.Manyhave no idea how big the state is or even how farSyracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo are from NY city.
Very well thought out.Here's what I posted on his page"
"I guess I'm one of those offensive people...
I personally don't think I should pay another tax in order to practice my constitutionally recognized rights -- paying for a Permit is just that.
If it was not illegal to carry concealed, I would do so most of the time. I'm not out to offend anybody, any more than black people were out to offend others by drinking from "white water fountains", or sitting at the front of the bus; but oh my, was THAT offensive!
If you are offended by my arming myself, then you have your own bigotry to deal with. So deal with it.
Gay Pride Parades are offensive to some, does this make them a**holes, as you so eloquently put it?
Ever hear of the Million Moms March? Those people ARE offensive, but that is due to how they conduct themselves. If they would conduct themselves in a mature manner while conducting their activist activities, it would not be offensive, even though I do not agree with their message.
Some people might also have a completely baseless fear of V-Neck sweaters, does this mean that you should change the picture that you display on your site, for fear that someone might be offended?
Face it, exposure breeds tolerance. Whatever your reasons for carrying, openly or concealed, you should not give up your God-Given rights to defend yourself, based on what others might think.
I'll bet George Washington, John Adams, and Ben Franklin did and said some things that were offensive to some folks. Remember THOSE a**holes?"
I'm still trying to figure out how in the hell this self important NY'er is thinking he is justified in telling ME how to carry MY gun (legally). :uhoh::uhoh::what::uhoh::uhoh:.
Take a hike, pardner.
Yeah. And as I've said, it doesn't sound like he's trying to ban OC, or has a deep-seated aversion to it... just feels that it isn't a good idea. Hmpf, fair enough. Like I said, I'd rather hear his kind of arguments than the tacticool anti-OC arguments.Pa. Patriot wrote:I'm still trying to figure out how in the hell this self important NY'er is thinking he is justified in telling ME how to carry MY gun (legally). :uhoh::uhoh::what::uhoh::uhoh:.
Take a hike, pardner.
He just thinks he's doing right by the 2A world based on his limited information. He seems to be afraid the anti-s will be able to use it to alarm people into restricting 2A rights.
He's probably a reasonable fella. Old ideas die hard for some. We just have to keep working at it.
He did exactly what I expected him to do -- he ignored it.Uraijit wrote:You bring up some very good points there. I'd be interested to see his response...Here's what I posted on his page"
"I guess I'm one of those offensive people...
I personally don't think I should pay another tax in order to practice my constitutionally recognized rights -- paying for a Permit is just that.
If it was not illegal to carry concealed, I would do so most of the time. I'm not out to offend anybody, any more than black people were out to offend others by drinking from "white water fountains", or sitting at the front of the bus; but oh my, was THAT offensive!
If you are offended by my arming myself, then you have your own bigotry to deal with. So deal with it.
Gay Pride Parades are offensive to some, does this make them a**holes, as you so eloquently put it?
Ever hear of the Million Moms March? Those people ARE offensive, but that is due to how they conduct themselves. If they would conduct themselves in a mature manner while conducting their activist activities, it would not be offensive, even though I do not agree with their message.
Some people might also have a completely baseless fear of V-Neck sweaters, does this mean that you should change the picture that you display on your site, for fear that someone might be offended?
Face it, exposure breeds tolerance. Whatever your reasons for carrying, openly or concealed, you should not give up your God-Given rights to defend yourself, based on what others might think.
I'll bet George Washington, John Adams, and Ben Franklin did and said some things that were offensive to some folks. Remember THOSE a**holes?"
...These are the biggest hypocrites I have EVER met!
Open carry is legal in Massachusetts, but will most likely result in your LTC being revoked. I open carry in my car and while hiking, that's about the most you can get away with here.1. Only 6 states ban open carry (NY, SC, FL, AR, OK, and TX).
You left out Maryland, andI wonder about MA and CA? But MD I know for sure, I live in this POS state. Oh wait, I can open carry- at home or at my business or on my property! But other than that- forget it. Can't even do public ccw here, crazy may- issue BS.
That is completely contradictory...Ifhis name sounds familiar, it is because he does a piece on NRA News every Wednesday. He is a radio talk show guy from Rochester NY.
http://www.lonsberry.com/writings.cfm?story=2270&go=4
Blah, Blah, Blah.I'm not bothered by a gun on your hip, but some people would be. And we gun owners don't make any friends when we rudely ignore the opinions of those people.
And we may incite a fight we don't want. If our common sense doesn't tell us to keep our pistols out of sight, our neighbors might push for a law that will.
And that wouldn't be good for anyone.
There is also reference to our Utah OCers.
The blog allows comments, and he responds to a good deal of them.