Hondov65
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Now I getit.
Now I getit.
I also carry in both modes. It really depends upon several factors and one or two arbitrary factors for me. Just this morning, I drove to my local BP station to fill up my TL. For that part of the trip, I OC'd. Then in the same shopping complex, I went into a grocery store to pick up some grapes. I shop at this store every week and since last July, I have been OC'ing there. However this morning, for some reason, I covered my gun with my shirttail to go CC. Just a whim and I cannot explain the "why" of it.If you search the forum, you can find many, many reasons why one would OC. It's just personal choice.
Even I CC sometimes. I have yet to have a BG take me out first because I was OCing.
The scenario you described is a very typical CC mind set, IMO. Most people I talk to give something similar and it could happen. Haven't seen or read any incidents with that similar scenario. However I do recall a gentleman OCing in a bank and unknowing thwarted the robber without even touching his firearm. Robber comes in with ski mask on,notices gentleman OCing, runs out. No shots, no foul.
Yes, Dennis O'Connor, saved the day without even moving an inch to his firearm. That is a real life scenario. Fact is, bad guys want easy in, easy out. They target where they think no one is armed. History, facts, and statistics all show that.
But again, it's all about personal choice.
Intersting replies I am also on Defensivecarry.com, and the M&P Board where the majority of the members Carry Concealed. I'll be chiming in from time to time. until next time be safe.
Many adamant CCers frequently refer to the "surprise thing" as well as not wanting to become an early target. When I first started OCing, I felt just like I had a bulls eye painted on my front and back - but then when I first started CCing, I thought everybody was staring at me. Perhaps we are just more used to OCing and have thought out our attitudes more clearly. I carry both ways depending on where I am and how I am dressed and may switch back and forth throughout the day.A little off topic, but is it just me, or do most of the adament CCers out there tend to ALWAYS bring up the whole element of suprise thing? It would seem to me that they would rather be attacked and get the chance to use their weapon? Maybe they are the ones that are a little trigger happy?
Theses are of course very generalized questions that obviously do not apply to everyone, or even a majority of those who choose to CC exclusively. Hell I CC 80% of the time. I can just appreciate the fact that a crime deterred is much better than a BG getting shot.
We all make the statement that "The last thing we want to do is use our weapons to defend ourselves," but I'm not so sure it's completely true with everyone that says it. See the post about the guy who blasted the two theives who burglarized his neighbors house when the dispatcher gave him clear instructions to stay in his home (can't remember thread title but it's on here somewhere) and you'll see what I mean.
There are inherent problems with carrying in both modes.A little off topic, but is it just me, or do most of the adament CCers out there tend to ALWAYS bring up the whole element of suprise thing? It would seem to me that they would rather be attacked and get the chance to use their weapon? Maybe they are the ones that are a little trigger happy?
Theses are of course very generalized questions that obviously do not apply to everyone, or even a majority of those who choose to CC exclusively. Hell I CC 80% of the time. I can just appreciate the fact that a crime deterred is much better than a BG getting shot.
We all make the statement that "The last thing we want to do is use our weapons to defend ourselves," but I'm not so sure it's completely true with everyone that says it. See the post about the guy who blasted the two theives who burglarized his neighbors house when the dispatcher gave him clear instructions to stay in his home (can't remember thread title but it's on here somewhere) and you'll see what I mean.
I'm quite sure that are some who carry who just hope and pray that they get the chance to use their weapon in defense of themselves and/or others.
I guess in closing, I still find it strange to see gun people at each other's throats over something like OC'ing vs CC'ing when we're all in this together.
I hate it when I agree with HankT !
SouthernBoy wrote:
I guess in closing, I still find it strange to see gun people at each other's throats over something like OC'ing vs CC'ing when we're all in this together.
I agree that we are all in this together but it doesn't surprise me that those on the fringes oftheOC and CC camps to fight each other. They see it, simplistically and erroneously,as a zero-sum game.
There are no strategic or even practical reasons to have the OCers set off against the CCers.
Makes no sense at all--except to the dullards and extremists...
There is only one RTKBA.
Your post would seem to be more negatively inflammatory than contributing in a positive way. If I am wrong, please set the record straight.
Yata hey
You are right about being able to get to your gun quickly. In the summer its not an issue but in the winter its a real pain.1) Do a search. Like you noticed, you ARE on an OPEN CARRY site.
2)Couple key replies to your post.
The "element of surprise" is entirely over-rated. You sure your going to be able to get to your gun?
It also completely discounts the deterrant factor of open carry. The vast majority of criminals will shop elsewhere when they realize there are hard targets in the area.
If the crime/criminal is deterred there is no "suprise" (that you may not be able to get to before your DEAD) needed.