11th grader asked to write new gun law

lprgcFrank · Dec 1, 2007

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My 11th grade daughter has a school exercise to write a new gun law (not a biased perspective from the school at all:cuss

She is open to rocking the boat in school and asked me to give her examples of good gun laws - She has the constitutional language from PA and VT as examples. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
Frank

Citizen · Dec 1, 2007

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Does she have time and boat-rocking room to write an entire Uniform Firearms Act?

Also,it might be fun to put in the "Whereas's" that preamble some laws. Maybe something like,

"Whereas the Commonwealth has experimented with various gun control measures, and

"Criminals ignored these laws, and

"Good people died or were injured, and

"Recognizing that disarmingcitizens is tantamount to authorizing violent crime against the person,

"This Legislature rises above partisan pandering, and enacts this UNIFORM FIREARMS ACT for the safety and well being of the People."

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Superlite27 · Dec 1, 2007

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How about going completely the other way?

Something like mandating that everyone carry a loaded firearm with them at all times for their own personal protection.

After all, if the school wants to open up directions for thought, this would definately get the diologue rolling.

If everyone were required to have a loaded firearm with them:

If you were a criminal, who would you rob?

Would 9-11 have happened if everyone on board were armed?

How many rapes would occur if every woman had a .38 in her purse?

Would road rage even exist? Would you flip someone off if you thought they might be unstable,YET KNEW THEY HAD A LOADED GUN?

Yeah. How about a law requiring everyone be armed? There's food for thought. Isn't that what they want in schools?

Citizen · Dec 1, 2007

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Also, it might be fun, and/or a good idea for Dad to look into the teacher's affiliations and find out what they intend to do with the information.

The last thing Dad would want is the school to report that Dad has some "funny" ideas about guns, and that there are guns in the house, perhaps unsecured and available to underage children, etc.

unrequited · Dec 1, 2007

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Hand back a blank piece of paper heh.

j/k, I say rewrite the 2A so that there's no wiggle room to argue the original intent of the framers.

Citizen · Dec 1, 2007

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unrequited wrote:

j/k, I say rewrite the 2A so that there's no wiggle room to argue the original intent of the framers.

+1

Tess · Dec 1, 2007

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lprgcFrank wrote:

My 11th grade daughter has a school exercise to write a new gun law (not a biased perspective from the school at all:cuss

She is open to rocking the boat in school and asked me to give her examples of good gun laws - She has the constitutional language from PA and VT as examples. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
Frank

Does PA have a "Castle Doctrine" law on the books? If not, recommend she propose it.

Or else, maybe:

NEW:

It shall be a felony for persons outside the family to attempt to ascertain the state of firearms maintained in the household (aimed at teachers and doctors who can't keep their noses out of other people's business.

NEW:

It shall be a felony for persons to knowingly spread falsehoods about the ownership or carrying of firearms. Persons who have been informed shall be deemed to know the accuracy of the information they propagate.

I'm 100% against requiring all persons to carry loaded firearms. Some should not, though there should not be a blanket policy set by a government who does not know the people involved.

gregma · Dec 1, 2007

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It would be fun to write a law mandating gun safety and marksmanship training as a requirement for each grade starting 5th grade until 12th grade.

Reading
Writing
Arithmatic
Marksmanship

Heartless_Conservative · Dec 1, 2007

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j/k, I say rewrite the 2A so that there's no wiggle room to argue the original intent of the framers.

+1/2, just leave out that pesky 'militia' clause, so scummy grammer nazis can't try to screw with it.

It would be fun to write a law mandating gun safety and marksmanship training as a requirement for each grade starting 5th grade until 12th grade.

Reading
Writing
Arithmatic
Marksmanship

That would work too.

yankees98a · Dec 1, 2007

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If she wants a good grade and not some thing to just rile people up, have a law that everyone needs to own a gun modeled after the georgia town whose crime rate plummented. this way she has a fact based arguement.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55288

lprgcFrank · Dec 1, 2007

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Thank you all very much for your help.

Citizen - I've already had run in's with the administration of the school when my oldest was there - long story of school administration incompetence where law enforcement was brought in inappropriately - but my issues were with the school - not the local PD.

Local law enforcement is well aware of my 'investments' and my 2nd amendment advocacy. The PA State Police maintain a database of all firearm purchases (even though it was ruled illegal) and since all of my firearms were purchased using the federal and state paperwork - they are aware of all of them. I regularly OC and the Radnor PD has always been completely professional and courteous in our dealings.

I've passed on the ideas here to my daughter - Thanks Yankees98 for the Kennesaw GA article. I'm not sure what she'll pick or if she will opt not to rock the boat. I'll let you know.

unrequited · Dec 1, 2007

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I just thought of something... I'm guessing your daughter's school isn't zero tolerance b.s. which has gotten 1st graders expelled for drawing pictures of guns, and 8th graders arrested for writing about them?

douglama · Dec 2, 2007

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This project could take you and your daughter some time to research. (I take it, it is for a state law)

She was asked to write a NEW gun law, Not rewrite the Constitution.

Print ALL the lawspertaining to firearms for your state and put them in a binder

The teacher and other students will be surprised, as to how many there are.

She can now write a law that is not on the books (if the other students, have the same project, she can prove tothem that, there laws are already written)

She can write a law "for or against" firearms, it is Her choice (not mine or yours)

TheLaw doesn't even have to make sense,

"All firearms manufactured, tranported through orowned, in the state of Pa. with a barrel length greater than 1 inch but no more than 63 inch, must have the barrel colored, High visababilty Lime Green, Bla Bla Bla"

imperialism2024 · Dec 2, 2007

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How about just writing a law that repeals all current gun laws?

j2l3 · Dec 2, 2007

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Here is a document of some interesting facts in regards to gun laws and gun control. It's a good read for all of us and might help your daughter.

imperialism2024 · Dec 2, 2007

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j2l3 wrote:

Here is a document of some interesting facts in regards to gun laws and gun control. It's a good read for all of us and might help your daughter.

gunfacts.info is also good... although hoplophobes don't tend to like facts too much.

Lew · Dec 2, 2007

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How about protecting a self-defense victim from having their weapon seized?

Ooh, ban barrel shrouds! :celebrate

vinnie · Dec 3, 2007

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"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

Go with a classic. Make sure she can defend it.

Wynder · Dec 4, 2007

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Better yet...

Congress shall make no law that restricts the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

John Pierce · Dec 4, 2007

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lprgcFrank wrote:

My 11th grade daughter has a school exercise to write a new gun law (not a biased perspective from the school at all:cuss

She is open to rocking the boat in school and asked me to give her examples of good gun laws - She has the constitutional language from PA and VT as examples. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
Frank

Frank,

Since this is OPENCARRY.ORG, why don't we amend the Uniform Firearms Act to allow lawful open carry in cities of the first class (ie. Philadelphia). I have attached a pdf of a bill that I drafted to do this very thing. Perhaps it would be a good place to start.

PS. The Bill # 777 is just a place-holder, when a patron actually introduces a bill, Legislative Services assigns it a number.

John

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