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    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/16/guns.poll/
    Nearly two-thirds of Americans say they believe the Constitution guarantees each person the right to own a gun, according to a poll released Sunday.

    In all, 65 percent said they thought the Constitution ensures that right, and 31 percent said it did not. The question had a sampling error of plus-or-minus 3 points.

    Men and people living in rural areas were most likely to say the Constitution guarantees the right to own a gun.

    Nearly three quarters of men (72 percent) said they believed so, versus 26 percent who did not. More than half (58 percent) of women said they believed so, versus slightly more than a third (35 percent) who did not.

    That question had a sampling error of plus-or-minus 4.5 points.

    Among rural dwellers, 73 percent said they agreed, versus 64 percent and only half (50 percent) of city dwellers who thought the same.
    I'm disappointed that the numbers on our side were so low. This should be a 90% to 10% kind of thing.

    Looks like our biggest room for growth is among women. Take your lady friends shooting, boys! Almost without exception, they love it!

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    This article was on my mind when I stumbled across this quote

    "No man's knowledge here can go beyond his experience." --John A. Locke

    It's our job to give them experience.

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    There are two kinds of knowledge, received and empirical. One we shouldn't trust and the other we aren't trusted to relate.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theoretical

    Between them stands

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability
    Falsifiability (or refutability or testability) is the logical possibility that an assertion can be shown false by an observation or a physical experiment. That something is "falsifiable" does not mean it is false; rather, it means that it is capable of being disproved under hypothetical circumstances. Falsifiability is an important concept in science and the philosophy of science.
    I would extend the last sentence to include rhetoric.

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    Polls: not reliable or accurate; whether they "help" or "hurt" our cause. It's impossible to say what the real number of 2nd amendment supporters actually is.

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    All polls are corrupt, corruptable, or corrupted. Democracy is the rule of fools by fools.

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    dngreer wrote:
    Polls: not reliable or accurate; whether they "help" or "hurt" our cause. It's impossible to say what the real number of 2nd amendment supporters actually is.
    I think it might be a fair idea for the mods to start using that arbitrary thread locking and post deletion ability to stop the recent rash of "polls about guns on other websites" threads.

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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    All polls are corrupt, corruptable, or corrupted. Democracy is the rule of fools by fools.
    +1

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    I would suggest all external polls be listed in one sticky.

    I hope that internal polls are seen as not different - pretty trivial.

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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    I would suggest all external polls be listed in one sticky.
    Good idea. That way they will not clog up the regular forums.

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    imperialism2024 wrote:
    I think it might be a fair idea for the mods to start using that arbitrary thread locking and post deletion ability to stop the recent rash of "polls about guns on other websites" threads.
    There haven't been that many and they're all titled with the word "poll" in them so they're easily avoidable. I say leave 'em. It helps us win those polls online and I think that makes a small difference in our fight for hearts and minds.

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    ama-gi wrote:
    imperialism2024 wrote:
    I think it might be a fair idea for the mods to start using that arbitrary thread locking and post deletion ability to stop the recent rash of "polls about guns on other websites" threads.
    There haven't been that many and they're all titled with the word "poll" in them so they're easily avoidable. I say leave 'em. It helps us win those polls online and I think that makes a small difference in our fight for hearts and minds.
    Let's be honest. Is anyone going to change their mind and embrace guns just because of a poll? The anti-gun media will continue to propagate the "evils" of guns whether they have a poll that says so or not. We're just deteriorating the quality of this forum, which is counterproductive to the goals of the mods... If a member can be effectively banned for being argumentative, surely there should be some regulation regarding turning OCDO into some sort of game show.

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    imperialism2024 wrote:
    Let's be honest. Is anyone going to change their mind and embrace guns just because of a poll?
    That's a double-barreled question, but the answer to the first part of it is YES! Most people don't think about issues too much and have lazy ways of forming opinions. Argumentum ad populum works for the mindless. Once they form an opinion, they become invested in it and rarely change it. Dumb people vote too.

    Keep the polls, label them, don't open them if you don't like it.

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    ama-gi wrote:
    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/16/guns.poll/
    Nearly two-thirds of Americans say they believe the Constitution guarantees each person the right to own a gun, according to a poll released Sunday.

    In all, 65 percent said they thought the Constitution ensures that right, and 31 percent said it did not. The question had a sampling error of plus-or-minus 3 points.

    Men and people living in rural areas were most likely to say the Constitution guarantees the right to own a gun.

    Nearly three quarters of men (72 percent) said they believed so, versus 26 percent who did not. More than half (58 percent) of women said they believed so, versus slightly more than a third (35 percent) who did not.

    That question had a sampling error of plus-or-minus 4.5 points.

    Among rural dwellers, 73 percent said they agreed, versus 64 percent and only half (50 percent) of city dwellers who thought the same.
    I'm disappointed that the numbers on our side were so low. This should be a 90% to 10% kind of thing.

    Looks like our biggest room for growth is among women. Take your lady friends shooting, boys! Almost without exception, they love it!
    Don't overlook how the sampling was done.

    We are constantly hearing polls here in PA that just don't make sense. Then when some research was put into it we found it the only places that were polled were in the inner city. They specifically targeted people they knew would answer in their favor.

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