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    Manassas man arrested on federal weapons charges
    Associated Press - December 20, 2007 10:25 PM ET

    MANASSAS, Va. (AP) - A Manassas man has been arrested and charged with keeping and selling machine guns and other unregistered weapons.

    Federal prosecutors in Alexandria say 41-year-old Christopher Compton was arrested today without incident.

    Undercover agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives say they purchased four unregistered machine guns from Compton in April at his previous home in Ashburn. Compton allegedly told the undercover agents he had manufactured and converted the weapons.

    Again this month, undercover agents say they met Compton at his home in Manassas and purchased two unregistered machine guns, an unregistered short barrel rifle and an unregistered silencer.


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    Boot the BATFE.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    Manassas man arrested on federal weapons charges
    Associated Press - December 20, 2007 10:25 PM ET

    MANASSAS, Va. (AP) - A Manassas man has been arrested and charged with keeping and selling machine guns and other unregistered weapons.

    Federal prosecutors in Alexandria say 41-year-old Christopher Compton was arrested today without incident.

    Undercover agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives say they purchased four unregistered machine guns from Compton in April at his previous home in Ashburn. Compton allegedly told the undercover agents he had manufactured and converted the weapons.

    Again this month, undercover agents say they met Compton at his home in Manassas and purchased two unregistered machine guns, an unregistered short barrel rifle and an unregistered silencer.


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    Shows you how easy it is to convert a gun. The real control in my opinion will be with the ammunition. It's getting pretty hard to find .223/5.56 in quantities.

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    What is the punishment?? 10 years and $250,000 per violation????

    He is so screwed!!

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    What is the punishment?? 10 years and $250,000 per violation????

    He is so screwed!!
    well, yes, ...once he drops the soap.

    I'll bet he didn't have a VSP green card for those machine guns either....

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    Why are we automatically accepting information from Federal prosecutors coming to us via mainstream media channels?

    We've all heard about BATF shenanigans.

    I'll put more faith in it once I hear a guilty verdict that isn't preceded by months of blogs that present evidenceBATF altered the parts, changed the receiver, entrapped the guy, etc., etc.

    If anything we need to take this as analert that the Feds have seized a citizen and probably personal property.And we keep a real close eye that the Fedsaren't up to monkey business.
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    Lucky he did not try to sell a shotgun with a barrel 1/4" shorter then some arbitrary limit. If so and his wife happened to step out the front door holding their baby she would most likely have been shot.

    If some intruder shot their dog and their 14-year old son ran out to investigate - he would have been shot and killed also.

    Thanks BATF for protecting the rights of Americans at Ruby Ridge. We will never forget you and neither will God.

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    Lucky he did not try to sell a shotgun with a barrel 1/4" shorter then some arbitrary limit. If so and his wife happened to step out the front door holding their baby she would most likely have been shot.

    If some intruder shot their dog and their 14-year old son ran out to investigate - he would have been shot and killed also.

    Thanks BATF for protecting the rights of Americans at Ruby Ridge. We will never forget you and neither will God.
    You forgot to also thank the FBI and Federal Marshalls. Weavers son was killed by a federal marshall. His wife was killed by an FBI sniper.
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    doug23838 wrote:
    LEO 229 wrote:
    What is the punishment?? 10 years and $250,000 per violation????

    He is so screwed!!
    well, yes, ...once he drops the soap.

    I'll bet he didn't have a VSP green card for those machine guns either....
    This is true!!

    He is double screwed... eww!!!

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    *sarcasm* yeah well if the BATFE hadn't have tried to buy the guns from him, he wouldn't have broken as many federal laws!!! */sarcasm*

    either way, I don't like it one bit, from any point of view. I don't like the BATFE, but I also don't like people who break laws, no matter how unconstitutional they may be...this is virginia, a suppressor or SBR isn't that hard to get, legally!

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    From a constitutional view, laws prohibiting possession of guns are illegal. I tend to believe that the man in question has broken no valid law and the BATFU is the guilty party for forcing compliance of an illegal law.
    But it doesn't matter what I believe since I do not have paramilitary teams available to me to enforce the Constitution.


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    Toad wrote:
    From a constitutional view, laws prohibiting possession of guns are illegal. I tend to believe that the man in question has broken no valid law and the BATFU is the guilty party for forcing compliance of an illegal law.
    But it doesn't matter what I believe since I do not have paramilitary teams available to me to enforce the Constitution.
    The OP does not say he was arrested for having the MGs. He was arrested for selling the unregistered MGs on a coulpe of occassions. All this is if you believe the BATF. Now if the laws requiring the MGs to be registered is unconstitutional, then he might have a wisp of a chance of getting out of this.

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    I agree that banning or restricting any type of gun sucks.... There are some real p'erty guns out there.....

    But these are the laws that were created or backed by the people WE voted into office. Since it against the law... we have to abide by it or work on getting them repealed.

    Licensed establishments can lawfully make MGs... This guy was making them and selling them did not report it to the ATF. I do not care for the ATF all that much.... But there are doing their job.

    Point being.... they are there to catch people doing this very activity.



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    Worse than the BATFE is the federal court system. It's a mockery of what justice was intended to be in this country. The croked judges do everything they can to block evidence and testimny that helps the accused.


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    LEO 229 wrote:
    SNIP But there are doing their job.


    I think part of the problem is that there is plenty of evidence that they are doing way more than their job, to the point of open hostility to gun owners and gun rights.BATFE has significantly damaged credibility and loss of respect in the 2A world.

    Of course, the moonshine world has had a sour opinion of themfor ages, and would love to seethem mashed.

    I'm not surehow they areviewed in the tobacco world, but I suspectthere are some that would want to seeBATFE smoked in Congress.

    The explosives industrymight have some complaints that could blow up if they got inthe press.

    (Sorry, couldn't help it. )


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    LEO 229 wrote:
    I agree that banning or restricting any type of gun sucks.... There are some real p'erty guns out there.....

    But these are the laws that were created or backed by the people WE voted into office. Since it against the law... we have to abide by it or work on getting them repealed.

    Licensed establishments can lawfully make MGs... This guy was making them and selling them did not report it to the ATF. I do not care for the ATF all that much.... But there are doing their job.

    Point being.... they are there to catch people doing this very activity.

    I don't remember voting for the people that passed these laws in the 30's, 60's or 80's. I was only able to vote in the year 2000.

    That whole "we voted for the people that made these laws" thing really doesn't work

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    hsmith wrote:
    I don't remember voting for the people that passed these laws in the 30's, 60's or 80's. I was only able to vote in the year 2000.

    That whole "we voted for the people that made these laws" thing really doesn't work
    You have narrowed your focus young grasshoppa'

    We the people.... :P

    But unfortunately we younger people will have to suffer for the mistakes of our elders...

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    vrwmiller wrote:
    Manassas man arrested on federal weapons charges
    Associated Press - December 20, 2007 10:25 PM ET

    MANASSAS, Va. (AP) - A Manassas man has been arrested and charged with keeping and selling machine guns and other unregistered weapons.

    Federal prosecutors in Alexandria say 41-year-old Christopher Compton was arrested today without incident.

    Undercover agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives say they purchased four unregistered machine guns from Compton in April at his previous home in Ashburn. Compton allegedly told the undercover agents he had manufactured and converted the weapons.

    Again this month, undercover agents say they met Compton at his home in Manassas and purchased two unregistered machine guns, an unregistered short barrel rifle and an unregistered silencer.


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    But, the ATF lets the Albany, NY police dept violate the law byordering full automatic weapons and letting their employees have them. Some have turned up in Texas and other states but no charges are filed. All but five have been located.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    hsmith wrote:
    I don't remember voting for the people that passed these laws in the 30's, 60's or 80's. I was only able to vote in the year 2000.

    That whole "we voted for the people that made these laws" thing really doesn't work
    You have narrowed your focus young grasshoppa'

    We the people.... :P

    But unfortunately we younger people will have to suffer for the mistakes of our elders...
    LEO 229, I don't often agree w/ you, but I think you were right the first time.
    WE vote for those who make new laws whether they concern new subjects or old ones. We could repeal the Machine Gun taxes and restrictions if we chose to.
    Hopefully, after a successful Supreme Court case or two, getting more people to take responsibility for their own defense, a change or 10 in the news media, and electing some new Reps in State and US Congress, we will finally get what we deserve.

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    I know some other departments have tried the same thing.

    The officers would pay the cost and try to keep them when they retire only to find out that this was not allowed.

    You mentioned that the ATF allowed NY to do it.. Can you please provide a cite for this?

    I cannot believe even the AFT would do that form all the information I have seen in the past.


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    LEO 229, I don't often agree w/ you, but I think you were right the first time.
    WE vote for those who make new laws whether they concern new subjects or old ones. We could repeal the Machine Gun taxes and restrictions if we chose to.
    Hopefully, after a successful Supreme Court case or two, getting more people to take responsibility for their own defense, a change or 10 in the news media, and electing some new Reps in State and US Congress, we will finally get what we deserve.
    This is what needs to be done..... We need to be sure people are in office that support what we want. I believe that is how the system was designed.

    The bad part is when the flip-flop after they are elected!!

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    He needs a few gun friendly people on his jury.

    I couldn't/wouldn't find him gulity if I was onthe jury.

    Federal gun laws are out dated and stupid.
    If you think like a Statist, act like one, or back some, you've given up on freedom and have gone over to the dark side.
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    True.... but he did make machine guns and sell them to people that were not checked out. These handy pieces of hardware could EASILY end up in the hands of gang bangers.

    Not that I care if they kill each other off but... cops and citizens could get hurt with all that lead.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    True.... but he did make machine guns and sell them to people that were not checked out. These handy pieces of hardware could EASILY end up in the hands of gang bangers.

    Not that I care if they kill each other off but... cops and citizens could get hurt with all that lead.
    Are you saying those ATF agents might sell them to gang-bangers? Obviously the man could tell the buyers were fine upstanding law-abiding citizens :^). Your argument goes against private sales without BGCs, oops did I start that one up again?

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    Come on.... you know what I am getting at.

    If you cannot find something wrong with what I say.. Please do not attack the obvious intent of the message.

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