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    The following events happend at the two past weekly VA Beach GOP breakfasts at 
    the Crown Plaza Hotel. Last week I went and a lady got upset when she observed I 
    was OCing. Although she did not confront me personally, yet she brought it to 
    the attention of the chairman yet the chairman did not mention it to me. 
    This week we had a decent sized Ron Paul turnout and the chairman asked one of 
    the ladies with us why I was carrying a gun. Her answer to him was he carries it 
    everywhere and I feel a lot safer when he's around but you will have to ask him. 
    The chairman approached me about it and basically said that a woman who brought 
    her daughter was upset that I had a gun. He also told me the woman said that had 
    she known someone would have been there with a gun she wouldn't have brought her 
    daughter. I informed the charman that since the hotel had a liquor license I am 
    required open carry. I also told him I would be more then happy to discuss this 
    with the woman. Later on when I was talking to him again he asked for my name 
    and phone number so if the lady called him she could contact me to discuss the 
    matter.  Upon further discussion with the chaiman, I realized he was not 
    familiar with VA gun laws. Also, I was informed that he will be seeking a 
    position on the bench (to be a judge). 
    
    The next breakfast is Saturday Jan 5th 8AM at the Crown Plaza Hotel on Bonney 
    Rd. in VA Beach. Perhaps we should make this an open carry event.

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    It is my understanding that Ron Paul is pro gun and supports all that comes with it. What is the lady thinking? I am glad that they did not try and boot you out of the breakfast. I suspect that she will be finding another candidate to support once she realizes that he supports the RTKBA. Hopefully her eyes will open :what:and she will become enlightened and truely join and support the cause.

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    Just sounds like one lady with an anti attitude, and a lawyer (judge wannabe) that doesn't know the criminal code.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    What is this "Chairman's" name?

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    sccrref wrote:
    It is my understanding that Ron Paul is pro gun and supports all that comes with it. What is the lady thinking? I am glad that they did not try and boot you out of the breakfast. I suspect that she will be finding another candidate to support once she realizes that he supports the RTKBA. Hopefully her eyes will open :what:and she will become enlightened and truely join and support the cause.
    She's not a RP supporter (like a lot of other Republicans) she was just at the GOP breakfast.

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    Sounds like an Obama or Hilary supporter

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    I can understand her concern. I have heard some guns do not like children and are prone to leaping from the owner's holster and shooting. Does your gun not like children? Is your gun properly trained? You never know when they will get uppity and shoot of their own accord.
    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

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    VAopencarry wrote:
    I can understand her concern. I have heard some guns do not like children and are prone to leaping from the owner's holster and shooting. Does your gun not like children? Is your gun properly trained? You never know when they will get uppity and shoot of their own accord.
    especially those "assault" rifles!

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    VAopencarry wrote:
    I can understand her concern. I have heard some guns do not like children and are prone to leaping from the owner's holster and shooting. Does your gun not like children? Is your gun properly trained? You never know when they will get uppity and shoot of their own accord.
    My kids and my guns get along great! They play together well and are respectful of each other.

    Perhaps that lady doesn't know how to properly raise her children?

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    According to the media, and after the Colorado church incident, private citizens with a gun are now "security."

    That means if anybody asks why you have a gun, you should say "Its for security."

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    VAopencarry wrote:
    I can understand her concern. I have heard some guns do not like children and are prone to leaping from the owner's holster and shooting. Does your gun not like children? Is your gun properly trained? You never know when they will get uppity and shoot of their own accord.
    Maybe it's a selective sort of thing. The only kid my guns seem to have any problem with is my daughter's boyfriend . I'm not sure if that makes them properly trained, or extremely well trained though.



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    les_aker wrote:
    VAopencarry wrote:
    I can understand her concern. I have heard some guns do not like children and are prone to leaping from the owner's holster and shooting. Does your gun not like children? Is your gun properly trained? You never know when they will get uppity and shoot of their own accord.
    Maybe it's a selective sort of thing. The only kid my guns seem to have any problem with is my daughter's boyfriend . I'm not sure if that makes them properly trained, or extremely well trained though.

    Maybe your guns are a good judge of character or lack there of.

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    My guns don't like aggresive drivers , but I have kept them under restraint. I just let my wife yell insults etc.

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    Why do you think it unusual to encounter anti 2A people in the GOP? The "frontrunners" - Gooliani and Romney would sell out ur gun rights in a heartbeat.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    If nothing else, that's why Huckabee's position makes me feel good. At least he doesn't want my guns.

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    I hope he doesn't want them the way he lets rapists go free!!!!!

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    VAopencarry wrote:
    I can understand her concern. I have heard some guns do not like children and are prone to leaping from the owner's holster and shooting. Does your gun not like children? Is your gun properly trained? You never know when they will get uppity and shoot of their own accord.
    Yeah, you never know about these guns that dislike children. There was an incident in the news over the weekend about some kids playing with a .22 rifle at the Rockbridge County line, up near Botetourt County. I just love it when reporters say "the gun went off." Why can't they say "somebody pulled the trigger."

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    vmathis12019 wrote:
    If nothing else, that's why Huckabee's position makes me feel good.Â* At least he doesn't want my guns.
    Yeah, feel-good politics. More of what we need.

    Then again, as I sitin the middle of Arkansas, I was scrolling through a document on my parents' computer.....

    By the end of his ten-year tenure, Governor Huckabee was responsible for a 37% higher sales tax in Arkansas, 16% higher motor fuel taxes, and 103% higher cigarette taxes according to Americans for Tax Reform (01/07/07), garnering a lifetime grade of D from the free-market Cato Institute.
    The number of state government workers rose 20% during his tenure (Arkansas Leader 04/15/06), and the state’s general obligation debt shot up by almost $1 billion, according to Americans for Tax Reform.
    I'll vote for Mickey Mouse before I vote for this tax-monkey.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    AbNo wrote:
    vmathis12019 wrote:
    If nothing else, that's why Huckabee's position makes me feel good. At least he doesn't want my guns.
    Yeah, feel-good politics. More of what we need.

    Then again, as I sitin the middle of Arkansas, I was scrolling through a document on my parents' computer.....

    By the end of his ten-year tenure, Governor Huckabee was responsible for a 37% higher sales tax in Arkansas, 16% higher motor fuel taxes, and 103% higher cigarette taxes according to Americans for Tax Reform (01/07/07), garnering a lifetime grade of D from the free-market Cato Institute.
    The number of state government workers rose 20% during his tenure (Arkansas Leader 04/15/06), and the state’s general obligation debt shot up by almost $1 billion, according to Americans for Tax Reform.
    I'll vote for Mickey Mouse before I vote for this tax-monkey.
    You probably ought to eyeball this website.






    Friends of ALIPAC,

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    Mike Huckabee's Amnesty for Illegals In Iowa Primary
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    vmathis12019 wrote:
    If nothing else, that's why Huckabee's position makes me feel good. At least he doesn't want my guns.
    Huckabee's better than that gun-grabberRomney...that's about the only good thing I have to say about him.

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    ama-gi wrote:
    vmathis12019 wrote:
    If nothing else, that's why Huckabee's position makes me feel good. At least he doesn't want my guns.
    Huckabee's better than that gun-grabberRomney...that's about the only good thing I have to say about him.
    Ann Coulter had an interesting article on Huckabee:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/...gi?article=226

    Although I don't agree with her on everything, it's a very interesting read.

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    packingdressagerider wrote:
    You probably ought to eyeball this website.

    Friends of ALIPAC,
    Â*
    ALIPAC made ABC World News Tonight!Â*
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    Mike Huckabee's Amnesty for Illegals In Iowa Primary
    *video I can't hear*
    Sorry, no dice. There are no speakers on this computer, so I can't hear anything.

    Oh, and...

    STEPHANOPOULOS: “You know, but Governor, let me stop you right there because a lot of people have looked at this. And I even got the bill right in front of me and I know that what you’re talking about may have been in your original legislation but you continued to push for a bill after the scholarship provisions were dropped that would simply provide in-state tuition benefits to illegal immigrants. I’ve read through it.”
    [quote]HUCKABEE: “Right.”
    (later)

    HUCKABEE: “Well, the difference is if a student comes in from Colorado he hasn’t been educated in our high school, hasn’t had our courses but if you’ve had a child that’s been there since hes 5, 6 years old or even since hes13 and he’s had his entire high school experience sitting alongside Arkansas students, the point is, is he better off going to college and becoming a taxpayer as opposed to not going to college and potentially becoming a tax taker? Look, the fact that the federal government failed in allowing him to get here illegally is not the problem of the state, it’s the problem of a federal government that pushed it down on the states.”
    (Way to pass the buck onto the Fed there, Huckleberry)

    Also keep this in mind, I grew up with Clinton as governor, then I got this bag in his place.... I've had plenty of first hand experience watching what a wonderful job he's done.

    I love how he pionts out that "we have roads to take care of", and the pavement is more or less falling apart around here. Thanks, Mikey....

    This guy is a RINO, and an easy target for the left-leaning media's bias.

    I should know, I got to watch him tell everyone how great he was for years... :X
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    AbNo wrote:
    vmathis12019 wrote:
    If nothing else, that's why Huckabee's position makes me feel good. At least he doesn't want my guns.
    Yeah, feel-good politics. More of what we need.

    Then again, as I sitin the middle of Arkansas, I was scrolling through a document on my parents' computer.....

    By the end of his ten-year tenure, Governor Huckabee was responsible for a 37% higher sales tax in Arkansas, 16% higher motor fuel taxes, and 103% higher cigarette taxes according to Americans for Tax Reform (01/07/07), garnering a lifetime grade of D from the free-market Cato Institute.
    The number of state government workers rose 20% during his tenure (Arkansas Leader 04/15/06), and the state’s general obligation debt shot up by almost $1 billion, according to Americans for Tax Reform.
    I'll vote for Mickey Mouse before I vote for this tax-monkey.
    Check out Ann Coulter's article on Huckabee. The title is "LIBERALS SING 'HUCKELUJAH'", you may need to look in the archives for it if you click on the link below after the article is removed from the front page. She has at least one other article against Huckabee that was relatively recent.

    http://www.anncoulter.com/

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    Wait, you're not saying I support this tax-raising, illegal-appeasing jack-arse, are you?
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    AbNo wrote:
    Wait, you're not saying I support this tax-raising, illegal-appeasing jack-arse, are you?
    No, not at all. Coulter is saying the liberals support him because he's a liberal, a RINO.

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