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    Today Sunday Dec 23 I tuned in to Meet The Press and was astonished by what I heard come out of Ron Paul's mouth. My point of view on this is I could not in good faith EVER CAST A VOTE FOR RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT. I hope some of you seen the interview Tim Russert crucified him on his past record. He had the gall to say Lincoln was wrong to go to war to and free the slaves. The guy is a gerk.

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    Silverfox44 wrote:
    Today Sunday Dec 23 I tuned in to Meet The Press and was astonished by what I heard come out of Ron Paul's mouth. My point of view on this is I could not in good faith EVER CAST A VOTE FOR RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT. I hope some of you seen the interview Tim Russert crucified him on his past record. He had the gall to say Lincoln was wrong to go to war to and free the slaves. The guy is a gerk.
    What's a gerk?

    Well, thanks for sharing your opinion....I think many of us on this board disagree with you wholeheartedly.....:quirky

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    Did you see the show? Just because he is in our corner as far as gun control laws goes you should have seen him try to explain his record. Thanks for your reply

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    I was not going to post but this is interesting, and I didn't catch what a gerk is ether. That aside, I to saw the "interview". Tim Russerts style was not let Dr. Paul answer the question. He asked another question while Dr. Paul was trying to answer the first one. Yes, Dr. Paul stammered on the answers. BS tactic by Russert nothing more.
    Once again people are not listening to what Dr. Paul is saying. The states have every right to secede from the union just as the southern states wanted to over slavery. Think about this, Lincoln used federal troops to attack U.S. citizens. How many presidents want to do that? As Dr. Paul stated, Lincoln did not need to use force to free the slaves. Economic and human rights were already at work to end slavery. The south would have ended slavery on their own. It was up to the states, not the federal government.
    And gee, Dr. Paul can't remember things he said thirty years ago. How many of you remember what you said yesterday? The media taking things out of context? Not ever!
    I don't think the people working at the IRS are going to vote for him. The only problem with Dr. Paul is that it is already to late.


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    I didn't get to see the interview.

    What were all the points on his record you found objectionable, Silverfox44?
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    fetch wrote:
    I was not going to post but this is interesting, and I didn't catch what a gerk is ether. That aside, I to saw the "interview". Tim Russerts style was not let Dr. Paul answer the question. He asked another question while Dr. Paul was trying to answer the first one. Yes, Dr. Paul stammered on the answers. BS tactic by Russert nothing more.
    Once again people are not listening to what Dr. Paul is saying. The states have every right to secede from the union just as the southern states wanted to over slavery. Think about this, Lincoln used federal troops to attack U.S. citizens. How many presidents want to do that? As Dr. Paul stated, Lincoln did not need to use force to free the slaves. Economic and human rights were already at work to end slavery. The south would have ended slavery on their own. It was up to the states, not the federal government.
    And gee, Dr. Paul can't remember things he said thirty years ago. How many of you remember what you said yesterday? The media taking things out of context? Not ever!
    I don't think the people working at the IRS are going to vote for him. The only problem with Dr. Paul is that it is already to late.
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    Interview is here.

    And just for the record, many of us do not worship at the alter of Lincoln.

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    I think fetch covered most of what I objected to. Dr Paul was asked why he is now a Republican whenhe ran as a libertarian I think in 88 and criticized the Republicans but decided to switch back to that party. Another problem I had was the negative things he had to say about the Regan Presidency. They always say do not argue over Religion and Politics, and since this is the first time I have put my feelings on a certain issue in print I can understand why.

    I appreciate all of you who tooktime to read it and post your replys.

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    Silverfox44 wrote:
    Today Sunday Dec 23 I tuned in to Meet The Press and was astonished by what I heard come out of Ron Paul's mouth. My point of view on this is I could not in good faith EVER CAST A VOTE FOR RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT. I hope some of you seen the interview Tim Russert crucified him on his past record. He had the gall to say Lincoln was wrong to go to war to and free the slaves. The guy is a gerk.
    He DID NOT say that Lincoln was wrong to free the slaves....he said that he chose the wrong method of doing so.
    Get your facts straight........
    Contrary to popular belief, the Civil War wasn't just about slavery.

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    You just don't get it.
    Dr. Paul's criticism of Regan is what he said he was going to vs. what he did in office. Regan said he was going to cut government, end the dept. of education, the atf, etc. He did not. Now both are dangerous to U.S citizens.
    Also Dr. Paul is running as a republican not because he wanted to, but it is because he had to. A third party, a party that is pro Constitution, is a joke in this country. People on welfare are not going to vote for Dr. Paul.
    I view that 1913 was the death of the Republic. It has taken more than 100 years to get to where we are it is not going to change back over night. At this point in time I don't think there will be an '08 election. I know that Dr. Paul will not be president in '08, but it will change a lot of peoples view of the government! God help us all.

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    Agree

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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    Civil war? WHAT civil war?
    Pardon me...the war of northern aggression

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    Comp-tech wrote:
    Pardon me...the war of northern aggression
    Oh, and him an Alabamian, too!


    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    fetch wrote:
    The states have every right to secede from the union just as the southern states wanted to over slavery. Think about this, Lincoln used federal troops to attack U.S. citizens. How many presidents want to do that? As Dr. Paul stated, Lincoln did not need to use force to free the slaves. Economic and human rights were already at work to end slavery. The south would have ended slavery on their own. It was up to the states, not the federal government.

    + 1

    What makes it difficult for some to accept,is that in school many are taught that the "Civil War" was fought over human rights and slavery. This revisionism has abolished in their minds the idea that the States have (had) rights and could act independent of a Federal entity and were well within their rights to resist an invasion and an attack on State sovereignty. Now the concept of cesession is considered 'absurd', when in reality, it's the cleanest break from Federal tyranny.
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    At this point,I'm STILL voting for Ron Paul. He'll probablynever get the Rep. nod to run the ticket. However,I am amazed at all the comments nationwide by people who like him,but state they won't vote for him because his chances of winingare slim to none. We have become a Nation of people who will take no chances with ANYTHING. "If my guy,team,driver,whatever, can't win, I'll back someone else who will." Whatever happened to backing the long shot? The downtrodden? I know you all get it.... Anyway,Merry Christmas to you all. Remember to watch SCOTUS in March for the case of all cases. It will define us all for Generations to come,regardless of the outcome. Peace.

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    mindful musings wrote:
    It will define us all for Generations to come,regardless of the outcome.
    That is a lot to expect from the question that SCOTUS agreed to consider

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_...ct_of_Columbia

    On November 20, 2007 the Supreme Court agreed to hear the case.[5] The court has rephrased the question be decided as follows:

    The petition for a writ of certiorari is granted limited to the following question:
    Whether the following provisions, D.C. Code §§ 7-2502.02(a)(4), 22-4504(a), and 7-2507.02, violate the Second Amendment rights of individuals who are not affiliated with any state-regulated militia, but who wish to keep handguns and other firearms for private use in their homes?

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    Tomahawk wrote:
    Interview is here.

    And just for the record, many of us do not worship at the alter of Lincoln.
    +1
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    Plus too!

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    I believe with some research one can find very valid historians who believe the war between north and south was fought over stopping the dissolution of the union through cesession of the southern states and slavery was not the true driving force. I do not have a specific link to this view.

    Full quote of Dr. Paul's Civil War/War of Northern Agression.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22342301/page/4/

    MR. RUSSERT: We'd still have slavery.

    REP. PAUL: Oh, come on, Tim. Slavery was phased out in every other country of the world. And the way I'm advising that it should have been done is do like the British empire did. You, you buy the slaves and release them. How much would that cost compared to killing 600,000 Americans and where it lingered for 100 years? I mean, the hatred and all that existed. So every other major country in the world got rid of slavery without a civil war. I mean, that doesn't sound too radical to me. That sounds like a pretty reasonable approach.

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