openryan
State Researcher
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A couple nights ago I stopped to get gas at the Speedway station in Munster, on Calumet Avenue.
As I was walking in to prepay, I saw two officers walk out, didn't know if they noticed my firearm or not, but apparantley they did as they had parked at the edge of the parking lot and ran my plates and observed me while I walked back out to my vehicle.
I thought that this was odd, as the car was unmarked and had Illinois plates. Then they drove toward me and asked me if I had a permit "for that". They then asked me where I keep my permit, which is always in my wallet, and asked me to provide it to them, at this point two officers exited the vehicle. One was an older gentleman, and one was a younger guy, probably in his twenties, or early thirties.
The younger guy immediately took the offensive and started into me that what I was doing was wrong, and that it is a concealed carry permit, that I was scaring people and so on. I thought it was going to end badly as it was an Illinois car and they probably didn't know the Indiana laws as well as I did. I asked them if they had got a call, which they didn't, they had just happened to be filling up next to me.
The older gentleman told me he was also and Indiana officer, to which I replied, well at least then you know I am doing nothing wrong. Again, the younger guy continues with his bashing of my mode of carry and telling me what I am doing is "wrong".
As I soon realized I wasn't going to get a word in by waiting for this guy to stop talking, I had had enough of his verbal abuse. I asked them if I was doing anything wrong, the older gentleman said no, then I told him that if that was the case I would like to pump my gas and that I did not appreciate his partners attitude, and that I would not conceal my firearm, and I would like to be left alone. Upon this they walked back to the car, I really didn't think they expected to hear this from me, but I was having a bad day and not in the mood for their verbal abuse.
The younger guy still couldn't keep his mouth shut, he got back into the car then told me, you better not take that into Illinois, but of course you know everything don't you.
I told him that I thought the Illinois law was to just cover it up once you cross the border... they left.
This raised quite a few questions--Can the railroad police stop me on public property? Where is their jurisdiction? It was an Illinois car... I am sure you could imagine my frustration, and the story above doesn't have every detail, and although not as horrible as my subway incident, and although I did act rudely at the end of the encounter, they didn't let up from the get go.
I called the CNRR police com center, I received a call back yesterday and spoke with the guy who is in charge of the local area here in NW Indiana. I recorded as much of the phone call as my cell phone would allow, so I will have to listen to it again and get his name.
I will finish up the rest of this later, I just found a microwave I have been searching for for a while, have to go pick it up!
A couple nights ago I stopped to get gas at the Speedway station in Munster, on Calumet Avenue.
As I was walking in to prepay, I saw two officers walk out, didn't know if they noticed my firearm or not, but apparantley they did as they had parked at the edge of the parking lot and ran my plates and observed me while I walked back out to my vehicle.
I thought that this was odd, as the car was unmarked and had Illinois plates. Then they drove toward me and asked me if I had a permit "for that". They then asked me where I keep my permit, which is always in my wallet, and asked me to provide it to them, at this point two officers exited the vehicle. One was an older gentleman, and one was a younger guy, probably in his twenties, or early thirties.
The younger guy immediately took the offensive and started into me that what I was doing was wrong, and that it is a concealed carry permit, that I was scaring people and so on. I thought it was going to end badly as it was an Illinois car and they probably didn't know the Indiana laws as well as I did. I asked them if they had got a call, which they didn't, they had just happened to be filling up next to me.
The older gentleman told me he was also and Indiana officer, to which I replied, well at least then you know I am doing nothing wrong. Again, the younger guy continues with his bashing of my mode of carry and telling me what I am doing is "wrong".
As I soon realized I wasn't going to get a word in by waiting for this guy to stop talking, I had had enough of his verbal abuse. I asked them if I was doing anything wrong, the older gentleman said no, then I told him that if that was the case I would like to pump my gas and that I did not appreciate his partners attitude, and that I would not conceal my firearm, and I would like to be left alone. Upon this they walked back to the car, I really didn't think they expected to hear this from me, but I was having a bad day and not in the mood for their verbal abuse.
The younger guy still couldn't keep his mouth shut, he got back into the car then told me, you better not take that into Illinois, but of course you know everything don't you.
I told him that I thought the Illinois law was to just cover it up once you cross the border... they left.
This raised quite a few questions--Can the railroad police stop me on public property? Where is their jurisdiction? It was an Illinois car... I am sure you could imagine my frustration, and the story above doesn't have every detail, and although not as horrible as my subway incident, and although I did act rudely at the end of the encounter, they didn't let up from the get go.
I called the CNRR police com center, I received a call back yesterday and spoke with the guy who is in charge of the local area here in NW Indiana. I recorded as much of the phone call as my cell phone would allow, so I will have to listen to it again and get his name.
I will finish up the rest of this later, I just found a microwave I have been searching for for a while, have to go pick it up!
I love these Brit colloquialisms!
