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LEO 229 wrote:
Freeflight wrote:
LEO 229 wrote:
Ich muss Ihre Papiere bitte sehen
Leo,
I for one don't believe that you personallywould try to abuse this power and my comment was not aimed at you...I have read your posts and agree with you alot I do. (For a cop you seem like a good one and are okay by me...)
But there are thoes that will try to mis-use this power... and they will do so with a clear concience that they are doing what is best....and so it should NEVER be granted...
Zieg Hiel!
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. — C. S. LEWIS
You are right... I only use my powers for good. Like Superman. He would NEVER use his x-ray vision to see through women's clothing.
I know of cops that have pulled people over to ask them out on dates. Others that ran tags and knocked on their door to ask them out. So they abusedtraffic stops and VCIN information.
There is always something that a few are going to abuse. This "paper check" can also be abused but the possibility of the minorabuse is outweighed by those that will use it properly.
Out of the 850,000 cops out there.... there are not that many abusing their position. You have to have a bad apple in the bushel.
I'm glad you see it my way :lol:I know I'm right... Joke leo... Joke...
I will have to disagree with you on this one. This bill is just another attempt to have everyone "Feel better" ...as in, "see what we have done to keep you safe... now we can clean up the streets because we can detain and search anyone "We LEOS"reasonably viewas athreat... for any good reason that we believe is true.."
when the surrounding circumstances reasonably require that public safety requires such identification"the reasonsawfully nebulous by design and open to interpretation so that our "Net" will catch as many Flies as possible...but thats okay... we are your servants and will never misuse this power..."
Nazi Germany viewed the Jews as a threat and made similar laws to be able to Stop and Identify... see what happened to the Jews...
Not in AMERICA and not on my Watch...
my whole point is that if even 1 or 2Jack booted thugs could (will)mis-use this then it just can't be...its a Pandora's box as far as I'm concerned.
take this made up scenario for instance. Some Leo's upon seeing an armed person entering 7-11...could reasonably suspect that he is up to no good "Being Armed" andwill be allowed under this law to harass and harangue said armed person... because in "Good Faith" they... the said leo's believe that.."
the surrounding circumstances reasonably require that public safety requires such identification"
You see where I'm going with this...
I do believe our men and women in Blue deserve all the Tools they need. Just Not this one... It gives up yet another bit of freedom to exchange for feeling safer...
In no way should we Pile on the Leo on this one. I knowI'm Right, I also see where Leo is coming from and understand..I've said my bit and thought it through as I'm sure he has..
Its all cool Leo 229 :dude: we are all entitled to our beliefs..we can disagree without coming to blows or stooping to calling names.... and we can continue with dialog as long as we (both parties)desire...