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    Damn! that evil NRA is Negotiating our Rights Away, again!

    Fairfax, VA – The California State Court of Appeals announced today their decision to overturn one of the most restrictive gun bans in the country, following a legal battle by attorneys for the National Rifle Association (NRA) and a previous court order against the San Francisco Board of Supervisors.

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    How does winning a court case in California equate to supporting a disgusting bill in Congress?
    Laws alone can not secure freedom of expression; in order that every man present his views without penalty there must be spirit of tolerance in the entire population. -Albert Einstein

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    Hmmm, no mention of them here, maybe there's a different decision somewhere...

    http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions...ts/A115018.PDF

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    CA APPEALS COURT RULES UNANIMOUSLY IN FAVOR OF SAF LAWSUIT For Immediate Release: 1/9/2008 In a unanimous decision today, the California Court of Appeals ruled that the City of San Francisco’s handgun ban is illegal under state law, upholding a lawsuit filed by the Second Amendment Foundation and several other groups.
    “This is a great day for gun owners and civil rights in California,” said SAF Founder Alan M. Gottlieb. “This is the second time we successfully fought a gun ban in San Francisco, and what this demonstrates is that the city’s leadership is as horribly out of touch with the law as it seems to be out of touch with reality.”
    SAF was joined in the lawsuit by the National Rifle Association, Law Enforcement Alliance of America, California Association of Firearms Retailers and several private citizens.
    In its ruling, the court held that Proposition H, approved by voters in November 2005, is invalid as preempted by state law. Gottlieb said this was essentially the same case that SAF battled on its own 23 years ago when the city, under then-Mayor Dianne Feinstein, adopted a gun ban.
    “We urged the city well in advance to drop Proposition H from the 2005 ballot, and warned them that if they pushed the measure and it passed, we would meet them in court,” Gottlieb recalled. “We kept our word, along with our colleagues at the NRA, LEAA and our friends in the CAFR.
    “This has been a horrible waste of the court’s time, the city’s legal resources and the taxpayers’ money,” he added. “The only reason this case went forward after the ban was struck down by the trial court is that San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom and the Board of Supervisors wanted to mandate their extremist anti-gun rights philosophy as public law.
    “Every judge in every court that this and the earlier case went before has sided with us,” Gottlieb stated. “This is a battle that had to be fought, and this is a ruling that we expected from Day One of our lawsuit. This wasn’t just a fight over gun rights. It was really about defeating social prejudice against gun owners; a type of bigotry made even more insidious by the fact that it was fostered and defended by a city administration whose attitude toward gun owners is anathema to American values.”
    The Second Amendment Foundation (www.saf.org) is the nations oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 600,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control. SAF has previously funded successful firearms-related suits against the cities of Los Angeles; New Haven, CT; and San Francisco on behalf of American gun owners, a lawsuit against the cities suing gun makers and an amicus brief and fund for the Emerson case holding the Second Amendment as an individual right.


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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    Hmmm, no mention of them here, maybe there's a different decision somewhere...

    http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions...ts/A115018.PDF

    The offices of:

    Trutanich
    􀁹Michel, C. D. Michel,Don B. Kates, Glenn S. McRoberts andThomas E. Maciejewski

    Representing the NRA

    A little homework would have told you that

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    1st freedom wrote:
    Doug Huffman wrote:
    Hmmm, no mention of them here, maybe there's a different decision somewhere...

    http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions...ts/A115018.PDF

    The offices of:

    Trutanich􀁹Michel, C. D. Michel,Don B. Kates, Glenn S. McRoberts andThomas E. Maciejewski

    Representing the NRA

    A little homework would have told you that
    One of the neat things about .pdf is that they are searchable. I searched the cited 'A115018.pdf' for "nra", "NRA", "rifle" and "maciejewski" and got no hit near a phrase "Representing the NRA."

    If you're just looking online then you can find pretty much whatever you will - 'net-monkeys are part of the conspiracy of ignorance.

    Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns and the truth. NRA-AHSA *******

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    I really buy everything I see on the online, but it appears you do.Net-monkey. I made a phone call.

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    http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/A115018.PDF

    says in small part, on page 25/25:
    Counsel for Appellants: Dennis J. Herrera San Francisco City Attorney Wayne Snodgrass Vince Chhabria Deputy City Attorneys Counsel for Respondents: Trutanich􀁹Michel, C. D. Michel, Don B. Kates, Glenn S. McRoberts and Thomas E. Maciejewski Counsel for Amicus Curiae on Michael S. Hebel for The San Francisco Behalf of Respondents: Police Officers Association as Amicus Curiae on behalf of Plaintiffs and Respondents Law Office of Donald Kilmer, Donald E. Kilmer, Jr. for Gun Owners of California, Senator H. L. Richardson (ret.), and The Madison Society as Amici Curiae on behalf of Plaintiffs and Respondents Law Office of Donald Kilmer, Donald E. Kilmer, Jr. for California Rifle & Pistol Association as Amicus Curiae on behalf of Plaintiffs and Respondents Law Offices of Bruce Colodny, Bruce Colodny for American Entertainment Armories Association as Amicus Curiae on behalf of Plaintiffs and Respondents
    If you want to put another document in play then get to it NRA-'member'!

    Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns and the truth. NRA-AHSA *******

    ETA: LW, does the coincidence of the '?' in "Trutanich􀁹Michel" make the almost-quoted passage's author a liar?

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    Deputy City Attorneys Counsel for Respondents: Trutanich􀁹Michel, C. D. Michel, Don B. Kates, Glenn S. McRoberts and Thomas E. Maciejewski Counsel

    Make a phone call, find out who they were working for. I did.

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