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deepdiver

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Citizen wrote:
Just playing off the idea, not contradicting.

This has been the problem for the last 218 years--new ideas.

We need to get some in there who will use the old ideas--limited government, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence.
YES, YES, YES!!!!!!!!!!!! Absolutely correct!
 

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080124/NATION02/446603205&template=nextpage

INSIDE THE BELTWAY - Inflation-proof
Given that the nation is at war, unemployment is up, home sales are down, and the national debt stands at more than $9 trillion, somebody ought to give freshman Rep. Harry E. Mitchell, Arizona Democrat, a medal for trying.

Trying, that is, to save us taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars currently going into the pockets of members of Congress in the form of annual pay raises.

Along with Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, Mr. Mitchell this week introduced the Stop the Congressional Pay Raise Act of 2008, to block the automatic pay raise members are scheduled to receive next year.

"I introduced a similar bill last year seeking to prevent an automatic pay raise for members from taking effect this year," said Mr. Mitchell, who for 28 years taught American government and economics in high school. "Unfortunately ... last year's bill failed to reach the floor."

Each member is now receiving $169,300, a $4,100 increase from last year.
 

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deepdiver wrote:
First repeal the 17th amendment. Then the 16th and replace it with the Fair Tax. The "progressives" got those both shoved through under Taft and Wilson and we have headed in the wrong direction since then. In the last few decades the progressive movement has moved towards critical mass necessary to finish the socializing of America. If the several state legislatures elected the senators as originally set out, we wouldn't have unfunded mandates and the constant violations of the 10th amendment we see.

If we hadn't screwed with the original so much we wouldn't have all these issues and we wouldn't need term limits.
Don't stop with just those two admendments. Get rid of every admendment that was passed after the Bill of Rights. They are not needed any more.
 

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ChadW wrote:
Don't stop with just those two admendments. Get rid of every admendment that was passed after the Bill of Rights. They are not needed any more.


I don't think you've considered what you're suggesting.

You're suggesting there be no constitutional prohibition on slavery, no guarantee for women and minorities to have the right to vote, no term limits for presidents, no provisions to replace a president if he should go insane

It would also get rid of the incorporation of the Bill of Rights
 

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ama-gi wrote:
ChadW wrote:
Don't stop with just those two admendments. Get rid of every admendment that was passed after the Bill of Rights. They are not needed any more.


I don't think you've considered what you're suggesting.

You're suggesting there be no constitutional prohibition on slavery, no guarantee for women and minorities to have the right to vote, no term limits for presidents, no provisions to replace a president if he should go insane

It would also get rid of the incorporation of the Bill of Rights
In a rare turn of events, I agree with ama-gi. :p

Of all the amendments, I think the 16th and 17th, much more than any others, transfers power from the people to the federal government. Which makes sense considering that both were passed under so-called progressive administrations by the so-called secular-humanist/progressive movement, which in reality is a world government, internationalist "workers" movement professing socialist and communist ideals (see Barak Obama's and Hillary Clinton's presidential platforms for clarification of what the movement now professes). I'm not saying that as some sort of conspiracy theory, just identifying what they are, although it is pretty easy to see a boogy-man lurking in the machinations of the movement over the last 100 years.
 

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Don't wanna undo this one, neither:

XXVII No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of representatives shall have intervened.

I always find it interesting that the last Amendment to our Constitution was one of the first proposed. It was proposed as Article the Secondalong with 11 others, for a total of twelve, that were whittled down to 10, which became the Bill of Rights. In a way, had it been passed, itmight have been the original2nd Amendment.

You can check them out here. You have to download the high-res picture, but it goes quick. http://tinyurl.com/dusn8

I understand there was one man primarily responsible for resurrecting and pushing to get it ratified by the remaining states that needed to do it. I can't remember his name; but its a testament to what one guy can do if he just starts talking.
 
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