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nakedshoplifter wrote:
Good luck Nep. We tried being rational and talking to them. They are all batty and the kool-aid clouds their judgement. They want nothing short of a society where your guns are stored locked up at the range and you check them out for target practice and then return them to the range safe when you go home. Next step is getting rid of guns alltogether.
They don't believe anyone should have a gun in the home for any reason. That's what the police are for. Just ask them, they'll tell you the same thing!
I've protested and talked to the opposite side of various issues before. I find in groups where they are outnumbered or evenly opposed often people will be less "civil" and willing to speak rationally. That's why I saw the bus as a great opportunity in that they would be the majority (only me!) and if I acted passive, asking questions in order to get them to think of the other side of the argument, instead of challenging them with statements, I thought it might go well.
You really have to get people off the defensive before they will be willing to possibly entertain the idea that although their desires for safety are good their methods are bad. I mean is there "anyone" on this forum that wants a bad guy to have a gun?! Of course not, but outlawing private sales, which is in effect a national gun registry, is not the way to do it.
I told the lady from Virginia Center for Public Safety that that is what compulsive background checks mean. I then told her about my father's story of how during WWII the Nazis would enter a French town and the first thing they would do is go to the town hall and get the gun registry. They would then know who had a gun and exactly what guns they had. I then said they would show up at your door and you DAMN well better have those guns. Because if you didn't they were going to take you someplace "unpleasant" in order to find out where they went.
I told her the pros reasonings ultimately were a little esoteric in that not many people think that way. But the threat is still real and that is why the Founding Fathers wrote the 2cd Amendment. (Unfotunately I didn't quite say it as well as I am here).
So if you're reading this ma'am please accept my appologizes. I would still really love to discuss your views in a non-threatning way, just like we did Friday evening.
John (she knows my name, even knows where I live now......)