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    Ron Paul places second in Nevada
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    January 19, 2008 6:15 PM
    Ron Paul places second in Nevada. Now that's news.

    Bad news for Rudy Giuliani, whose Florida-or-bust strategy likely didn't account for America's mayor losing to the likes of Paul in Iowa and Michigan as well.

    Good news for Mitt Romney, who's watching John McCain's image recede in the rear-view mirror. For a few hours anyway.

    Interesting news for the rest of us. Does America really want a return to the gold standard? Concealed weapons to become commonplace? We know you Ron Paul supporters are online. Tell us what you think of the man's coup earlier today

    http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/usa/2008...d_in_neva.html

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    The ruler of this country let Paul be in second place in Nevada. It's only a gimmick. The election is a manipulated one. Ron Paul is an unfavorable of the Inside Group. His loss is designated by a rigging election though he should have won the election if there was an honest voting system.

    The Nevada case is a trick to cheat people.

    1. A small state won't affect the general election. So they award him a second place to show it's "democratic". A second place means nothing in campaign.

    2. It's a tactic to lure more money from people of grievance(to urge Paul's supporters continue to donate more money. That money finally will go to media's wallet.) to support its propaganda machine. After all, you won't win. So why not squeeze more money from you by increasing your confidence a little bit.

    3. To show people that the election is fair. He is an unfavorable, he was still in second place. That proves our system is "fair". Though the reality is, Paul may be the leading candidate in Iowa, New Hampshire and other states. They(Feds) moved his votes to his rival's.

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    uho, where is Dr. Morgan, its a zombie thread!
    Don't believe any facts that I say! This is the internet and it is filled with lies and untruth. I invite you to look up for yourself the basic facts that my arguments might be based upon. This way we can have a discussion where logic and hints on where to find information are what is brought to the forum and people look up and verify facts for themselves.

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    Kinda funny four years passed between first and second post but it almost fits as contemporary anyway. I guess kat just couldn't let it lie there in the history bin.

    Lemme guess... New to the forum, was digging around and found something interesting but didn't see how old it was.

    It happens. Still funny though.
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    Ron Paul has no chance. The ruler of this country rigged the election to pick up their own puppet because they control the voting system. They justify the result by faked poll because they control media.

    Here is the proof. People found Ron Paul is the most popular candidate in Internet. Because Internet is open place. Ron Paul got most support from military, that's can't be rigged because the donation is there.

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    RTR.org - Watch - Ron Paul Will Win The Presidential Election 2012 - Here's The Proof !!

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    This is Proof: Ron Paul will win the presidential election in 2012. These are the main candidates for the upcoming elections. Notice the number of Likes and dislikes on each video. Ron Paul Dominates all by Thousands of percent. This is our new President. Dr. Ron Paul. Please keep up the good work and victory is ours. Gain Liberty. End Debt. Vote Ron Paul! New Hampshire Speech By All Presidential Candidates. PLEASE VIEW EVIDENCE: Below...

    Rick Santorum: [link to www.youtube.com]
    (1489 views - 9 likes 76 dislikes)

    Newt Gingrich: [link to www.youtube.com]
    (3,082 views - 16 likes / 124 dislikes)

    Jon Huntsman: [link to www.youtube.com]
    (3,087 views - 35 likes 100 dislikes)

    Mitt Romney: [link to www.youtube.com]
    (20,600 views - 335 likes 690 dislikes!!) and they call him the winner! hahahah

    RON PAUL: [link to www.youtube.com]
    (129,000 views - 3,916 likes - 44 dislikes.)

    Now YOU tell me who is gonna win. It's an obvious landslide victory."
    I still say Paul has no chance because this is a covert totalitarian. They control election system and play you people fool.
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    Just look at how 'successful' Ron Paul was against John McCain and Mitt Romney in his bid for the 2008 nomination. He led all kinds of gallup and straw polls, he even led the way in raising funds via internet campaigning...yet how much success did he have in securing the nomination?
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    Note the Iowa caucus this year. Ron Paul was poised to win it, until the State party chair said, "we cannot allow this to happen" and all of a sudden Santorum is the guy to beat. I wonder if thay took some plays from the democrats and a lot of dead people voted???? Or as they say in Seattle: Vote early, vote often.

    http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9044

    Note, this guy says there were 53 people at his caucus..the list says 79?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonMan101 View Post
    Kinda funny four years passed between first and second post but it almost fits as contemporary anyway. I guess kat just couldn't let it lie there in the history bin.

    Lemme guess... New to the forum, was digging around and found something interesting but didn't see how old it was.

    It happens. Still funny though.
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    As long as they controlled the voting system, you never can elected a representative of your own.

    Nevada vote fraud official
    Jeffrey Phelps February 7, 2012
    Denver Conspiracy Examiner

    Once again, the 2012 election season brings the worst out of establishment politicians as Nevada GOP officials steal another election from Ron Paul
    As it turns out, just as in Iowa, the likelihood that Ron Paul should have actually been the winner is very high. Not only did CNN show live coverage of a special late evening vote count in a populated Las Vegas precinct that had Ron Paul winning by almost 60%, statistics are showing that Ron Paul may have actually won the entire caucus by approx. the same margin, had in not been for another round of State GOP election fraud that is seemingly never going to be address by the powers that be, for obvious reasons.

    Perhaps the most obvious aspect of the situation, however, may be the fact that Nevada is a known Libertarian state, Ron Paul has basically campaign there since his last attempt at the white house, his numbers have almost doubled in every state since then, yet Nevada state GOP ‘officials’ expect everyone to believe he actually received fewer votes there in 2012 than he did in 2008?

    http://www.examiner.com/conspiracy-i...fraud-official

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonMan101 View Post
    Kinda funny four years passed between first and second post but it almost fits as contemporary anyway. I guess kat just couldn't let it lie there in the history bin.

    Lemme guess... New to the forum, was digging around and found something interesting but didn't see how old it was.

    It happens. Still funny though.

    The aversion to "zombie threads" is a symptom of the 30-second attention span mentality of today's culture. For some strange reason, many people on the Net seem to be genuinely offended when someone revives an old thread that wasn't on their radar. It's like people are offended by the history of a forum, and have some sort of problem with anyone bringing up historical topics--even if they are relevent or pertinent to current topics of discussion.

    Put on your big boy panties, and deal with it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    The aversion to "zombie threads" is a symptom of the 30-second attention span mentality of today's culture. For some strange reason, many people on the Net seem to be genuinely offended when someone revives an old thread that wasn't on their radar. It's like people are offended by the history of a forum, and have some sort of problem with anyone bringing up historical topics--even if they are relevent or pertinent to current topics of discussion.

    Put on your big boy panties, and deal with it...
    Bingo!

    Those who have an aversion to it call it "thread necromancy." I call their aversion "necrothreadphobia."
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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    Bingo!

    Those who have an aversion to it call it "thread necromancy." I call their aversion "necrothreadphobia."
    Is an aversion to necromancy such a bad thing?
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    Elect a Zombie in 2012 (interesting segue from the OP's topic)...

    My opinion about our Second Amendment is that it establishes the one right that insures we keep all the others. My opinion about Ron Paul is that he appears to be a very strong supporter of AII, and I agree with roughly as many of his views as those with which I disagree. But, nontheless, he is a politician, and the smart pol's play to the audience in front of them. If you are not a particularly popular (i.e. - liberal) pol, any opinion you may have expressed at any point in your entire life will come back to bite you in the ass. I believe RP is a bit too radical/honest to be electable... if one naively believes our votes actually "elect" anybody.

    Somehow, the transition that diverted this thread from "The Guardian UK is asking for our opinion on 2a and Ron Paul" of the OP, into the upcoming election and zombies, slipped right past me. All the Guardian (UK) requested was opinions about 2A and this particular candidate. Pax...
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    Where is media?


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    Ron Paul is unelctable because the voting system is controlled by the Feds. They pick up their own puppet through rigged election and justify it by fake poll. (because they also control the media.) Only one thing they couldn't control - they couldn't rigged the attendence of the campaign meeting. That's how you see in these pictures. Of course, media never report it. You only see it in Internet.

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    Bryan Spencer Speaks about Rigging St. Charles Caucus


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    Lawyers for Ron Paul - GOP fraud
    ./viewtopic.php?p=1716270by free_life2 » 06/ 07/

    Your Help Is Needed – We MUST ACT QUICKLY
    Are you FED UP with the fraud of the GOP in this election??…Become informed of a LAWSUIT BEING FILED soon in federal court - CIVIL RIGHTS AND VOTER FRAUD VIOLATIONS.

    A group of attorneys have come together –“LAWYERS FOR RON PAUL” (https://www.facebook.com/groups/188334154612254/) and will be on a huge conference call on Wednesday 06/06/2012 @ 7:00 pm (PST) / 10:00 pm (EST), to explain this “Heart-Pounding” event.

    http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB...f=308&t=155576

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    Fraud confirmed in Texas. Election judge says votes were switched.

    Submitted by Dr.K.Research on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 13:29
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    Could Ron Paul have gotten 72% of the vote instead of 12%? Anne Beckett, election judge for Austin (Travis County), says it is so.

    In fact, she did an entrance poll of Republican voters for their party preference and says that a minimum of 66% offered on their own that they came to vote for Ron Paul. As she polled them she wrote a line on her hand, then, counted the total voters. A minimum of 66% and as high as 72% of all the votes went for Paul, NOT Romney (she wishes to be conservative, but says that at the bare minimum 66%, not 12%, of the votes went to Paul).

    For credibility it is important to note that she took a complete poll and was there from 6:00 a.m. until closing (12 hours). The precinct she judged was 247-R.

    http://www.dailypaul.com/239494/frau...ht-drkrbn-live

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    Hundreds of thousands of Ron Paul supporters voted for Romney today

    Submitted by Dr.K.Research on Tue, 05/08/2012 - 19:00
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    Hundreds of enthusiastic DP’ers have posted proudly, “I voted for Ron Paul today.” However, in many cases that's not even true. Instead, those dedicated freedom fighters may have just cast their votes for their arch-enemy, globalist and Goldman Sachs candidate Mitt Romney. Even more bizarre, those votes may well have went to Santorum and even Gingrich, too. How else could anyone explain those numbers.

    When Michelle Bachmann dropped out of the race, how did she do in her own home state? She got less than .5% of ther vote. Santorum with 12% in West Virginia, defeating the actively campaigning Paul? That is impossible.

    Like the ones prior in these May 8th primaries countless thousands of our votes were stolen and handed over to Romney. That’s right, Romney gets the CREDIT for our votes, falsely gloating in it. If that doesn’t make your blood boil, what will?

    This has been happening since Iowa. The same happened in tonight’s primaries. Yet, incredibly, it also happened years ago in West Virginia, Indiana, and North Carolina, in that case for John McCain.

    .....
    UPDATE: This started from the beginning. In Iowa Edward L. True caught the error, filed an affidavit, and made the riggers change it. In a neighboring county, Appanoose-Union, a township with only 100 potential voters, Santorum was give 32 caucus votes. The GOP was called on it by Iowa activists. They changed it to 3 votes. Matt McDonald caught Maine GOP fudging numbers, stealing votes from Dr. Paul, and forced them to change it. And we're supposed to be the paranoid ones? If we ARE suspicious, we have been given all the reason to be.
    You want more proof of the rigging? Go here:

    http://www.meetup.com/Harrisburg-Lib...nce/photos/355... (West Virginia)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q9NSVUu8nk (West Virginia)

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    I like it.


    I voted for Ron Paul in my state primary. I was hoping he'd get more support. There doesn't seem to be much standing in the way of our merry trip into the abyss.

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    I second your like. Even conservative media like Fox news experiences a cranius arsenix every once in a while.
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