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    Well I got a hold of a P-3AT this weekend. I was getting tired of going into places where openly carrying wasn't preferable (like the g/f's grandparent's house), and being forced to either akwardly conceal a larger handgun, or just carry in a bag. Now that problem is solved!

    I don't have any pictures of her yet, but most of us should know what they look like. It's not a pretty gun, and not the most fun to shoot (I've got the bites to prove it), but she'll fill her role well enough.

    I've put 75 rds through her so far w/o a single malfunction, and spent casings are going well over my head and slightly off to the right. Does anyone have any suggestions on things I should do even if she seems to be working properly? I know the P-3ATs sometimes have kinks that need to be worked out.

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    Just remember... if when you run out of bullets you still haven't eliminated the threat... throw the gun at him... it's actually more effective than firing it!

    J/K man. Gotta mess with the little calibers when I can . Congrats on what I understand to be a pretty good little BUG.

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    Stupid computer (just wrote a whole post then lost it). Anyway I hear ya I usually carry a .40 and my next purchase will probably be a .45, but you can't carry a 7-shot .45 concealed comfortably in your jeans pocket .

    Besides, that .380 will hold its own. It does a whole lot more damage than bird shot found that out today!

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    I would fire 200 rounds, minimum, before you consider it "broken in," and make sure a few of those mags are your carry ammo. Corbon DPX or Corbon "white/blue box" are great loads for this gun, and have fed reliably in my (read "my wife's") P3AT. I've found that going over the sharp plastic checkering with some 400 grit sandpaper really helps to keep the bleeding to a minimum. It will dullen-up the finish where you sand, but it's not like you bought it to be pretty, right?

    If you do start to have problems, check out the fluff and buff section over at ktog.org (Keltec owners group), here's the link to that area of their forum:

    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?board=2504

    Good luck, these guns are a "greatgun to have when you're not carrying a gun."

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    Thanks for the advice. Most everyone has said 150-200 rounds. I've already read a good portion of the ktog forum, and have registered as well. Wont let it pull me away from dear OCDO too much, though .

    And yes, being unarmed doesn't have to be so bad...

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    Maybe not a 7-8 shot but a 6 shot for sure

    Unfortunately they had crappy triggers.


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    If you think like a Statist, act like one, or back some, you've given up on freedom and have gone over to the dark side.
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    Still can't beat the size and weight of the P3AT

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    Agreed.


    Just wanted to let you know 45ACP for pocket carry was/is available.
    On rare occasions I have been known tocarry a 1903 Colt Pocket Pistol in .32acp that my Grandfather bought newin 1926.

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    Nice. I also know that kimber makes some almost pocket sized 1911s.

    BTW, did I mention this thing bites?? (Still haven't healed lol)

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    Who would have thought a 8oz. blow back .380 would kick:P.
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    Dre: You can get a Colt Defender and that will fit in your back pocket.



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    lol Again, still not as small or light (or cheap). You guys don't like P3ATs, huh?

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    Agent19 wrote:
    Who would have thought a 8oz. blow back .380 would kick:P.
    It's not a blowback--both the P32 and the P3AT are locked-breech designs, just like the Big Boys(tm).

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    hlh wrote:
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    lol Again, still not as small or light (or cheap). You guys don't like P3ATs, huh?
    The early P3ATs had "issues". The newer ones run pretty well after a 200 roung break in period.
    Yeah, I do understand that. But even then when looking at their manufacturing numbers the actual percentage of guns with "issues" has always been relatively low.

    Aaanyway thats not the point. Mine is shooting very well so far and carries nicely, so :Plol.

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    hlh wrote:
    I have one and may have to get another since my wife and I fight over it. I like the P3AT for a bug gun, and she likes it for everyday carry.
    She'll be a good BUG for me, but there will be times where she's the primary concealed gun, too. I haven't been able to bring myself to carrythe PPK/s as of late. She's just too purdy to risk getting messed up .

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    I carry a P-3AT every day at work. Love that little thing, but as soon as I open my car safe it is back to the .45.

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    All of the other options that people have talked up on this thread for more powerful options than the P3AT are Bigger, Heavier, and More Expensive than the KT. A full-size fighting gun, these are not, nor are they meant to be. But they are great for what they are, which is an inexpensive, decently-powered, "nostril-gun" for when you can't (or just don't want to) carry a compact or full-sized service pistol. A person who is going to their safe to grab their P3AT for the day is NOT going to replace it with an AMT Back-UP .45, or a Taurus Millenium, or a 3" 1911. They just aren't anywhere NEAR the same class.

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    I have a 3.65" barrel Bersa .45. I haven't tried it, but imagine it would fit in a jeans pocket nicely enough.

    In this photo, it's second from the bottom. From top to bottom, the .40, the 9mm, the .45, and the 380. Notice the 45 isn't much bigger than the 380.
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    Enjoy the little Bugger! the truth is that if you are comfortable carrying it and don't mind the bite, those P3's are a good tool to have. I just happen to have man sized hands :P.

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    both the P32 and the P3AT are locked-breech designs, just like the Big Boys(tm).
    I stand corrected.
    The bite is probably due to weight/size.


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    I don't think the P38T is a bad choice .
    My previous post were just tooffer other options for those that might want something in a larger caliber that would fit into a pocket.

    Like I stated, I have been known to carry a Colt 1903 32acp (purchased new in 1926)when I need a pocket gun.


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    And the little guns aren't just for contact distances.

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    .40 Cal wrote:
    Enjoy the little Bugger! the truth is that if you are comfortable carrying it and don't mind the bite, those P3's are a good tool to have. I just happen to have man sized hands :P.
    lol Are you saying I DON'T have man sized hands?? Naw that thing is down-right tiny. I'm debating whether to get the mag extension or not.

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    Tess wrote:
    I have a 3.65" barrel Bersa .45. I haven't tried it, but imagine it would fit in a jeans pocket nicely enough.

    In this photo, it's second from the bottom. From top to bottom, the .40, the 9mm, the .45, and the 380. Notice the 45 isn't much bigger than the 380.
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    hlh wrote:
    Great pic Tess!I bet the .45 Bersa weighs significantly more than the Bersa .380 even though both might fit in a pocket.
    Sure does. But I though he was saying a larger gun didn't fit in the pocket. Fitting and carrying comfortably are not necessarily the same. I wouldn't carry the .45 in my pocket, but I do carry it in my purse from time to time, in the same holster I use for the 380.
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    I have the .40 and it fits in my back pocket.

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