b1ack5mith
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im typing it up right now... i posted it first to build suspense hahaha
im typing it up right now... i posted it first to build suspense hahaha
whats our next step? im not stepping one foot into walmart until we clear this up and make SURE that everyone in the UT (or UT county) walmarts KNOW that its legal for us to. (pissed lol)
Utah has about 3 million residents. Figure 40% are under the age of 21 and can't get a permit and about 5% of our population being illegal aliens who can't get a permit, and that leaves about 1,650,000 persons eligible for a permit.and i said "lots of people conceal their weapons" (well im guessin about 1/3rd-1/4th of the people do conceal) anyway, it was a big mess. whats our next step?
about 5% of our population being illegal aliens who can't get a permit
So you were trying to BS the manager like she was trying to BS you. Sounds like a case of the pot calling the kettle black.utbagpiper wrote:about 5% of our population being illegal aliens who can't get a permit
Isn't it sad how we've been invaded and nobody is doing anything about it?
Secondly. I was using the "Half the people in the store" as an example, a figure.
I think it's sad that a country founded on the notion of freedom for all, one of whose main symbols has inscribed on it:utbagpiper wrote:Isn't it sad how we've been invaded and nobody is doing anything about it?about 5% of our population being illegal aliens who can't get a permit
Grossly off topic, but since you've offered your opinion, I'll offer mine.bI think it's sad that a country founded on the notion of freedom for all, one of whose main symbols has inscribed on it:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
is so determined to keep out exactly the sort of people that made it the great nation it is.
IMNSHO, the problem isn't that they're "aliens", the problem is that we call them "illegal". Many of our own ancestors were illegal as well -- when my great great great grandfather arrived in the Salt Lake Valley in 1847, the area belonged to Mexico according to white men's law and should really have belonged to the Shoshone, Gosiutes, Paiutes, Utes and Navajo. Didn't bother him a bit, he was too busy making a life for his family, according to the dictates of his God and his conscience.
Sorry, OT, I know. I won't respond further on this topic, but I just couldn't let it go entirely without comment.
No, I've made complaints about illegality and criminal conduct well above and beyond immigration. I've also complained about loyalties to a foreign nation. I have also complained about welfare and other costs to citizens. Most of these were not issues in prior generations.I said I wouldn't respond, so I'll limit myself to just adding: Every complaint you cite was made about every other wave of immigrants (except the illegality, but that was because our policies were different). Read a little about the history of the Irish immigrants, for example. The influx of near-destitute people has always created crime, and has always been the underlying force driving out economy. The present is no different. Immigrants have always created enclaves of their own culture (little Italy, Chinatown, little Saigon, etc.), and the first-generation immigrants have always failed to assimilate.
The current immigrants, legal and illegal, are exactly the sort of people who've made our country what it is. Some of them are criminals, or become criminals, but the vast majority of them are hardworking people looking to get ahead.
cool, who wants to be the guineapig and email em' lol
My second suggestion is to carefully examine your own comportment, dress, etc to see if you are unduly drawing attention to yourself or your firearm in these situations. OCing sends a message. I would hope that part of that message is that law abiding citizens who OC are well dressed, well groomed, polite, mature, soft-spoken, etc. I've never been asked to leave a business while carrying, be it CC, casually concealed, or open. This includes here in Utah as well as a couple of summers and a full semester in Tucson back in about '95 when I sitll looked pretty young.
sent email and well let you know what happpens on my end!Here is a contact things at the Walmart Coporate site
http://walmartstores.com/GlobalWMStoresWeb/navigate.do?catg=221
I think we should e-mail and see what responses we get.
I'm not the one who replied to two brief paragraphs with an 11-paragraph diatribeShall we get back to discussing RKBA and OC?