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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327908,00.html

    TINLEY PARK, Ill.— "Multiple" victims were found Saturday at a clothing store in a strip mall but there was no sign of the shooter, authorities said. They did not immediately confirm a report that four people had been killed.[/b]

    Police Sgt. T.J. Grady said officers responding to a 911 call about a shooting at the Brookside Marketplace at about 10:45 a.m. found the shooting victims inside a Lane Bryant store in this Chicago suburb.

    Grady refused to give other details at a news conference or take questions, but said the attacker had apparently left the area in the suburbs southwest of downtown Chicago.

    "No motive has been established," Grady said. "Every store was immediately canvassed and a search by air, too, has given us every indication that the offender has left the scene."

    Will County Coroner Patrick O'Neil had told the Chicago Tribune earlier that police reported four deaths.

    Grady said police were looking for a black man about 5 feet 9 inches tall and weighing 230 to 260 pounds, dressed in a black waist-length winter coat, a black cap and black jeans.

    Police allowed some shoppers into parts of the strip mall Saturday afternoon, but they cordoned off the Lane Bryant store.

    Tracy Caccavella said she was shopping at a Pet Smart store across the parking lot late Saturday morning when police entered the pet supply store.

    "Six police entered the store with their hands on their gun holsters," Caccavella said.

    The officers left after searching the Pet Smart store, she said.

    There was no immediate response to calls seeking comment from Lane Bryant Brand headquarters.
    Hmmm...just so happens to be in Cook County...how could this happen? I thought those EVIL guns were banned there!!!

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    Doug Huffman wrote: Mmmhmm...posted an hour after my original post.

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    "We're very sad about it," a clearly shaken Mayor Edward Zabrocki said from the scene. "It's ... we're a victim of our society that we live in."

    No jerkoff, WE are a victim of A society that YOU created!!! Thanks for nothing. This is a textbook case for legal ownership, possession, and carrying of defensive firearms. God this makes me sick...

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    Evil Ernie wrote:
    "We're very sad about it," a clearly shaken Mayor Edward Zabrocki said from the scene. "It's ... we're a victim of our society that we live in."

    No jerkoff, WE are a victim of A society that YOU created!!! Thanks for nothing. This is a textbook case for legal ownership, possession, and carrying of defensive firearms. God this makes me sick...
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    Add the idea thatifa citizen adopts the mayor's viewpoint, then there is nothingthecitizencan do about it, thus he is powerless to cause anything beneficial to happen, or avoid being on the receiving end of more of it.

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    Oh, and now we're supposed to feel sympathetic for "we" because that's what is expected for victims--sympathy. Think of the victims! Feel bad for the victims! Never any concern for them before they become a victim, no, certainly not.
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    Update

    Apparently the number of people killed was 5, not 4.

    Tragic.

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    "offender"



    Geez.

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    ""Six police entered the store with their hands on their gun holsters," Caccavella said."

    Why was this written??

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    BG definitely had his target picked; a quiet store full of plus size unarmed soccermoms.
    Just goes to prove that the Wolf can show up anytime, anywhere.

    I have to wonder what knee-jerk reaction this will bring about...

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    USAF_MetalChris wrote:
    Doug Huffman wrote: Mmmhmm...posted an hour after my original post.
    The earliest post that I saw but did not post had two LEO and a K9 entering before the shooting started. I need to take the garbage out 'cause I smell something fishy in this thread.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    ""Six police entered the store with their hands on their gun holsters," Caccavella said."

    Why was this written??
    And why did they have their hands on their holsters? Dumb cops -- the place to put your hand in such a situation is ON YOUR GUN, not your holster. ;-)

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    swillden wrote:
    LEO 229 wrote:
    ""Six police entered the store with their hands on their gun holsters," Caccavella said."

    Why was this written??
    And why did they have their hands on their holsters? Dumb cops -- the place to put your hand in such a situation is ON YOUR GUN, not your holster. ;-)
    Nah..... Dumb Reporter.

    No concept of the difference between a holster and a gun.



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    It appears that the reported wanted to make it look bad....

    Ooh!!! They touched their holsters!!! Oh God!! Do not pull your holster out!!

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    It appears that the reported wanted to make it look bad....

    Ooh!!! They touched their holsters!!! Oh God!! Do not pull your holster out!!
    There's a really obscene joke in there, somewhere, I just can't quite figure it out...

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    I think the politicians hope for things like this to happen. It helps to further their anti-agenda. It's much easier to convince people that something is true, ie.gun=evil, when emotions are high and people are mourning.This is also perfect because they don't have suspect in custody. All they have to point fingers at is the gun.
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    Tomahawk wrote:
    LEO 229 wrote:
    It appears that the reported wanted to make it look bad....

    Ooh!!! They touched their holsters!!! Oh God!! Do not pull your holster out!!
    There's a really obscene joke in there, somewhere, I just can't quite figure it out...
    Are you saying you cannot put your finger on it?

    Not originally written to be so obscene... But it has to tell you something about the the guy that posted it...

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    tarzan1888 wrote:
    swillden wrote:
    LEO 229 wrote:
    ""Six police entered the store with their hands on their gun holsters," Caccavella said."

    Why was this written??
    And why did they have their hands on their holsters? Dumb cops -- the place to put your hand in such a situation is ON YOUR GUN, not your holster. ;-)
    Nah..... Dumb Reporter.

    No concept of the difference between a holster and a gun.
    Yes, I thought that was obvious, hence the smiley.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    Tomahawk wrote:
    LEO 229 wrote:
    It appears that the reported wanted to make it look bad....

    Ooh!!! They touched their holsters!!! Oh God!! Do not pull your holster out!!
    There's a really obscene joke in there, somewhere, I just can't quite figure it out...
    Are you saying you cannot put your finger on it?
    Must...resist...smart remark...

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    Did the mall have a no weapons policy?

    If so, perhaps the BG just didn't read the sign. I'm sure this wouldn't have happened if he had. Killing a bunch of people is one thing, but NOBODY EVER violates an 'official' sign.

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    TheEggman wrote:
    Did the mall have a no weapons policy?

    If so, perhaps the BG just didn't read the sign. I'm sure this wouldn't have happened if he had. Killing a bunch of people is one thing, but NOBODY EVER violates an 'official' sign.

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    The entire county has a no weapons policy...

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    I live in IN and work about a mile or so from the mall. We were talking about this in the lunch room and one of the ladies was agreeing with Jesse Jackson about how guns are bad and how they should be outlawed (they basically are in that area). The guy across from me said something about self defense (sweet I have an ally at work). I said something to the effect of the criminal was already breaking several laws before he pulled the trigger and one more restricting the type of gun he was using wouldn't have changed a thing. And that criminals wouldn't obey the law anyhow.

    For those who don't know the area that this happened, it is in the south suburbs of Chicago (All Hail King Daley:?). It is a new strip mall that has several areas still under construction and just opening the new stores. Tinley Park is a middle to upper class neighborhood with several towns around it being in this class as well. I think, not 100%, that the mall is actually just cross the county border into Will County. I think the county line is Harlem Ave which is a few hundred feet from the store.

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    Tomahawk wrote:
    LEO 229 wrote:
    Tomahawk wrote:
    LEO 229 wrote:
    It appears that the reported wanted to make it look bad....

    Ooh!!! They touched their holsters!!! Oh God!! Do not pull your holster out!!
    There's a really obscene joke in there, somewhere, I just can't quite figure it out...
    Are you saying you cannot put your finger on it?
    Must...resist...smart remark...

    That is funny.........



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