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VCDL Action Item to end open carry requirement in Virginia restaurants

Mike

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UPDATE 4 FEB 08: This bill was pased by for the day and will be heard on Wednesday,6 FEB 08 at 2PM in Sen. Courts of Justice Committee - if anybody can break free that day, please come to Richmond!!

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RESTAURANT BAN REPEAL TO BE HEARD IN SENATE MONDAY!

Senator Hanger's Restaurant Ban Repeal bill, SB 476, is going to be
heard in the Senate Courts of Justice committee Monday morning at 8:30
AM! If you can turn out for this hearing, it would be great to pack
the hearing room with "Guns Save Lives" buttons! The meeting will be
on the ground floor of the General Assembly Building, SE corner of 9th
and Broad streets, in Senate Room A.

Other gun bills to be heard in that committee:

SB 332, Senator Cuccinelli's bill to protect CHP holder information
from dissemination if the CHP holder requests the information be kept
private.

SB 436, Senator Vogel's bill to allow possession of a loaded firearm
in a vehicle if it is in a locked container or compartment. This bill
does NOT affect CHP holders. We want the "locked" requirement removed.

SB 529, Senator Houck's bill to protect CHP holder information from
dissemination.

SB 730, Senator Smith's bill to protect CHP holder information from
dissemination, except to firearms advocacy groups.

SB 759, Senator Ruff's bill to protect CHP holder information from
dissemination.

SB 776, Senator Hurt's bill to allow Commonwealth Attorneys to carry
off-duty without a permit. VCDL opposes this bill as it makes yet
another "class" of gun owners. Commonwealth Attorneys can get a CHP
for off-duty carry. They can carry by the same rules that everyone
else does - including having to open carry in restaurants and being
banned from carry on K-12 school property. Their lives are not less
important, but also not more important, than your life or mine.

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ACTION ITEMS

NOTE: If clicking on items below doesn't work (a problem for some AOL
users), copy and paste them into your browser.

If you haven't already sent a message supporting Senator Hanger's
Restaurant Ban Repeal bill to your Senator (it's now or never), click
here:

http://tinyurl.com/ynnsm2


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Click here to tell your Senator to support SB 436, but to ask that the
"locked" requirement on vehicle containers or compartments be dropped:

http://tinyurl.com/2k2agp

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Click here to send a message to your Senator to oppose SB 776:

http://tinyurl.com/3bbbzl

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Delegate Janis' Castle Doctrine bill, HB 710, will be heard in the
full House Courts of Justice committee on Monday afternoon.

VCDL is changing the status of Delegate Nutter's bill to close the CHP
list from publication. HB 982 is being changed from STRONGLY SUPPORT
to NEUTRAL, as it was modified in the House Militia, Police and Public
Safety committee on Friday to shut out access by gun organizations,
while leaving the same information available from Circuit Courts.
Thus, while this would stop the Roanoke Times from publishing a CHP
database, the Fredericksburg Freelance-Star and other papers will be
able to continue publishing CHP holder information by getting it from
the Circuit Courts, as they currently are doing.

VCDL will now concentrate on Senate versions of the bill to protect
the CHP list. There are two bills that are better than HB 982 over
there - SB 730 and SB 332 (see top of this alert).

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MORE LIES FROM THE BRADYS

In an attempt to panic their members, the Brady Campaign is lying
about Delegate Janis' Castle Doctrine bill.

The Bradys are saying:

"...a bill that would allow a gun owner to shoot and kill another
person in public areas, even if their life were not in danger."

The bill is very short and easy to read, but they get it wrong. Your
RESIDENCE is NOT A PUBLIC AREA for crying out loud! If someone is
skulking around, uninvited, in your house and makes an overt act
towards you which makes you feel that your life is threatened, then
you are immune from a civil lawsuit if you have to use deadly force to
protect yourself or your family.


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sccrref

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They most likely will pass the background check. The point is that they should have tojump through the same hoops and follow the same laws as therest of us.You are correct, if they do not pass the check, then they should not be in that position.
 

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Can I presume you meant February, not January? ;)
 

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VA-ALERT: WAHOOO! Restaurant Ban repeal moves ahead!

-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Van Cleave
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:01 PM
Subject: VA-ALERT: WAHOOO! Restaurant Ban repeal moves ahead!


GREAT NEWS!

By a vote bipartisan vote of 9 to 6, Senator Hanger's restaurant ban
repeal, SB 476, has PASSED out of the Senate Courts of Justice
committee and heads to the Senate Floor!!!

URGENT!

If you are a **constituent** of Senator Norment (Williamsburg area),
ask the Senator **POLITELY** to support the restaurant ban repeal (SB
476) on the Senate Floor.

Senator Norment's email address is: district03@sov.state.va.us

Also, if you haven't yet told your Senator to support HB 476 to
repeal the restaurant ban, PLEASE DO SO NOW. There are 4,000 of you
who haven't sent a message to your Senator on that bill!

Click on the link below to send the message to your Senator
automatically. If clicking doesn't work, copy and paste it into your
browser:

http://tinyurl.com/ynnsm2

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MORE GREAT NEWS!

Senator Vogel's bill to allow non-CHP holders to have a loaded gun
within reach while in a vehicle as long as the gun is in a locked
container, SB 436, PASSED out of the Senate Courts of Justice
committee by a vote of 10 to 5 and is headed to the Senate Floor!

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(VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization
dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to
Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right.

VCDL web page: http://www.vcdl.org
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Placementvs.Calibur

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Agreed, the requirement for CHP holders to open carry in an on-premise licensee establishment is stupid.What HB-476 emphasizes is that any CHP holder who is apperently consuming an alcoholic beverage or appears intoxicatedmust be turned in to the proper authorities(remember this aspect is open to a LEO's interpretation). As someone who OC's and doesn't drink while OCingthis is a non-issue. For those who OC/conceal this could cause a problem. I should disregard this aspect of the Bill. However, for someone who OC's 100% of the time I thought I would point this out. Please, correct me if I'm wrong........
 

vt357

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Conaso wrote:
Does this mean it's all over? How long before we can CC in restaurant?
Unfortunately no. First it has to pass the whole Senate, then the House, then the governor must sign it. If the governor signs it it will should go into effect on July 1st.
 

DeadCenter

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vt357 wrote:
Conaso wrote:
Does this mean it's all over? How long before we can CC in restaurant?
Unfortunately no. First it has to pass the whole Senate, then the House, then the governor must sign it. If the governor signs it it will should go into effect on July 1st.

And if the gov does not sign it, it can become law. I just do not know when.

Is that correct?
 

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See here for details

The governor has four choices:

1.) Sign the bill
2.) Leave it unsigned for 7 days after which it automatically becomes law.
3.) Veto the bill. The legislature can then override the veto with two-thirds vote.
4.) Offer ammendments. This requires action by legislature.

Unless otherwise specified in the bill, the new law/action take effect on July 1.
 
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