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[align=left]HB 2389, which removes the reference to vehicles in ARS 13-3102 (misconduct involving weapons),will be heard in the House Judiciary Committee on Thursday, February 7, 2008.
Current law (ARS 13-3102.F) states that, without a concealed weapons (CCW) permit, it is permissible to carry a weapon or weapons “…in a case, holster, scabbard, pack or luggage that is carried within a means of transportation or within a storage compartment, map pocket, trunk or glove compartment of a means of transportation.”
Unfortunately, in 1994 an Arizona Appellate court decision (State v. Adams) determined that “within a means of transportation” meant it must be obvious under ordinary observation to someone outside the vehicle that there is a weapon inside the vehicle. This created conflicts interpreting the statute. As a result:
· Wearing a holstered firearm within a vehicle = concealed carry, requiring a CCW permit. But, that same holstered firearm in a map pocket, trunk or glove compartment, accessible by a vehicle’s occupants, does not require a CCW permit.
· Possessing a concealed weapons permit and a concealed weapon puts other occupants in the vehicle, who do not possess a CCW permit, at risk of arrest because of their proximity to your firearm. Yet, if that same weapon were in a map pocket, trunk, or glove compartment accessible by all the vehicle’s occupants, no crime is committed.
The proposed language clarifies that it permissible to carry a weapon, visibly or concealed, anywhere within a means of transportation.
Information on this and other bills can be found at the AzCDL website:
Please take the time to send a polite note to the committee members, and let them know that you want them to vote HB 2389 out of committee with a recommendation for passage by the full House. You can also use the cut-and-paste letter below. Following the letter are email address lists of the committee members in both semi-colon and comma separated formats. Use the one that is compatible with your email software.
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Subject: Support HB 2389
Dear Representative:
The Arizona Citizens Defense League (AzCDL) has informed me that HB 2389 is being considered in the House Judiciary Committee on Thursday, February 7, 2008. I urge you to vote HB 2389 out of committee with a recommendation for passage by the full House.
As written, current law (ARS 13-3102.F) allows a holstered or cased weapon to be carried “within a means of transportation” or “within a storage compartment, map pocket, trunk or glove compartment of a means of transportation.”
Unfortunately, in 1994 an Arizona Appellate court (State v. Adams, 189 Ariz. 235, 941 P.2d) determined that “within a means of transportation” meant it must be obvious under ordinary observation to someone outside the vehicle that there is a weapon inside the vehicle. This created conflicts interpreting the statute. As a result:
· Wearing a holstered firearm within a vehicle can be considered concealed carry, requiring a CCW permit. But, that same holstered firearm in a map pocket, trunk or glove compartment, accessible by any of the vehicle’s occupants, does not require a CCW permit.
· Possessing a concealed weapons permit and being armed puts other occupants in the vehicle, who do not possess a CCW permit, at risk of arrest because of their proximity to the firearm. Yet, if that same weapon were in a map pocket, trunk or glove compartment accessible by all the vehicle’s occupants, no crime is committed.
The proposed language clarifies that it permissible to carry a weapon, visibly or concealed, anywhere within a means of transportation.
Again, I urge you to vote HB 2389 out of committee with a recommendation for passage by the full House.
Sincerely,
Your Name
Street Address
City, AZ zip-code
telephone number
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Please be sure to include your name, address, and phone number.
Below are the email addresses of the committee members in both semi-colon and comma separation formats, along with a simple list of email addresses for those who encounter email address formatting problems. Use the list that is compatible with your email software.
Semi-colon format:
efarnsworth@azleg.gov; adriggs@azleg.gov; kadams@azleg.gov; tchabin@azleg.gov; sgallardo@azleg.gov; rcrandall@azleg.gov; bkonopnicki@azleg.gov; ksinema@azleg.gov; bmiranda@azleg.gov; syarbrough@azleg.gov
Comma format:
efarnsworth@azleg.gov, adriggs@azleg.gov, kadams@azleg.gov, tchabin@azleg.gov, sgallardo@azleg.gov, rcrandall@azleg.gov, bkonopnicki@azleg.gov, ksinema@azleg.gov, bmiranda@azleg.gov, syarbrough@azleg.gov
List of members’ email addresses:
efarnsworth@azleg.gov
adriggs@azleg.gov
kadams@azleg.gov
tchabin@azleg.gov
sgallardo@azleg.gov
rcrandall@azleg.gov
bkonopnicki@azleg.gov
ksinema@azleg.gov
bmiranda@azleg.gov
syarbrough@azleg.gov
As legislation progresses, we will keep you up to date via these Alerts and at our website.
These alerts are a project of the Arizona Citizens Defense League (AzCDL), an all volunteer, non-profit, non-partisan grassroots organization. Join today!
AzCDL – Protecting Your Freedom
Copyright © 2008 Arizona Citizens Defense League, Inc., all rights reserved.[/align]
[align=left]HB 2389, which removes the reference to vehicles in ARS 13-3102 (misconduct involving weapons),will be heard in the House Judiciary Committee on Thursday, February 7, 2008.
Current law (ARS 13-3102.F) states that, without a concealed weapons (CCW) permit, it is permissible to carry a weapon or weapons “…in a case, holster, scabbard, pack or luggage that is carried within a means of transportation or within a storage compartment, map pocket, trunk or glove compartment of a means of transportation.”
Unfortunately, in 1994 an Arizona Appellate court decision (State v. Adams) determined that “within a means of transportation” meant it must be obvious under ordinary observation to someone outside the vehicle that there is a weapon inside the vehicle. This created conflicts interpreting the statute. As a result:
· Wearing a holstered firearm within a vehicle = concealed carry, requiring a CCW permit. But, that same holstered firearm in a map pocket, trunk or glove compartment, accessible by a vehicle’s occupants, does not require a CCW permit.
· Possessing a concealed weapons permit and a concealed weapon puts other occupants in the vehicle, who do not possess a CCW permit, at risk of arrest because of their proximity to your firearm. Yet, if that same weapon were in a map pocket, trunk, or glove compartment accessible by all the vehicle’s occupants, no crime is committed.
The proposed language clarifies that it permissible to carry a weapon, visibly or concealed, anywhere within a means of transportation.
Information on this and other bills can be found at the AzCDL website:
Please take the time to send a polite note to the committee members, and let them know that you want them to vote HB 2389 out of committee with a recommendation for passage by the full House. You can also use the cut-and-paste letter below. Following the letter are email address lists of the committee members in both semi-colon and comma separated formats. Use the one that is compatible with your email software.
======================================================
Subject: Support HB 2389
Dear Representative:
The Arizona Citizens Defense League (AzCDL) has informed me that HB 2389 is being considered in the House Judiciary Committee on Thursday, February 7, 2008. I urge you to vote HB 2389 out of committee with a recommendation for passage by the full House.
As written, current law (ARS 13-3102.F) allows a holstered or cased weapon to be carried “within a means of transportation” or “within a storage compartment, map pocket, trunk or glove compartment of a means of transportation.”
Unfortunately, in 1994 an Arizona Appellate court (State v. Adams, 189 Ariz. 235, 941 P.2d) determined that “within a means of transportation” meant it must be obvious under ordinary observation to someone outside the vehicle that there is a weapon inside the vehicle. This created conflicts interpreting the statute. As a result:
· Wearing a holstered firearm within a vehicle can be considered concealed carry, requiring a CCW permit. But, that same holstered firearm in a map pocket, trunk or glove compartment, accessible by any of the vehicle’s occupants, does not require a CCW permit.
· Possessing a concealed weapons permit and being armed puts other occupants in the vehicle, who do not possess a CCW permit, at risk of arrest because of their proximity to the firearm. Yet, if that same weapon were in a map pocket, trunk or glove compartment accessible by all the vehicle’s occupants, no crime is committed.
The proposed language clarifies that it permissible to carry a weapon, visibly or concealed, anywhere within a means of transportation.
Again, I urge you to vote HB 2389 out of committee with a recommendation for passage by the full House.
Sincerely,
Your Name
Street Address
City, AZ zip-code
telephone number
=======================================================
Please be sure to include your name, address, and phone number.
Below are the email addresses of the committee members in both semi-colon and comma separation formats, along with a simple list of email addresses for those who encounter email address formatting problems. Use the list that is compatible with your email software.
Semi-colon format:
efarnsworth@azleg.gov; adriggs@azleg.gov; kadams@azleg.gov; tchabin@azleg.gov; sgallardo@azleg.gov; rcrandall@azleg.gov; bkonopnicki@azleg.gov; ksinema@azleg.gov; bmiranda@azleg.gov; syarbrough@azleg.gov
Comma format:
efarnsworth@azleg.gov, adriggs@azleg.gov, kadams@azleg.gov, tchabin@azleg.gov, sgallardo@azleg.gov, rcrandall@azleg.gov, bkonopnicki@azleg.gov, ksinema@azleg.gov, bmiranda@azleg.gov, syarbrough@azleg.gov
List of members’ email addresses:
efarnsworth@azleg.gov
adriggs@azleg.gov
kadams@azleg.gov
tchabin@azleg.gov
sgallardo@azleg.gov
rcrandall@azleg.gov
bkonopnicki@azleg.gov
ksinema@azleg.gov
bmiranda@azleg.gov
syarbrough@azleg.gov
As legislation progresses, we will keep you up to date via these Alerts and at our website.
These alerts are a project of the Arizona Citizens Defense League (AzCDL), an all volunteer, non-profit, non-partisan grassroots organization. Join today!
AzCDL – Protecting Your Freedom
Copyright © 2008 Arizona Citizens Defense League, Inc., all rights reserved.[/align]
