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    This is not only what the British government thinks of its subjects (I will not call them citizens), but this is what the British subjects WANT! This puts the gun ban into perspective as it shows the point of view of people who support such laws.

    Prepare to be disturbed and disgusted


    Says the voice from above emenating from the rotating camera following your footsteps, "CCTV cameras are operating in this area. Anti-social behaviorwill be reported to the police."

    Please government, protect us!!! Take care of us!

    Pardon me while I barf.

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    How is this OC or even gun related??

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    Because this is what is going to happen to America in 25 years or less given our current government and the political apathy of the people of this country. Meaning NO oc, NO gun rights, NO anything. Welcome to socialism, enjoy your stay.

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    I am disturbed and disgusted as advertised.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    Big Brother indeed. A friend and I are actually trying to get his fiancee out of there before they start barcoding people and institute Sharia Law. And no, I'm not joking.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    How is this OC or even gun related??
    Firearms are the citizens last defense against tyranny. Gun owners are the last line of defense for our constitutional Republic. Learning to identify tyranny is very important to the defenders of freedom. The Virginia Sea and motto are instructive:

    http://www.netstate.com/states/mottoes/va_motto.htm

    Sic Semper Tyrannis

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    compmanio365 wrote:
    Because this is what is going to happen to America in 25 years or less given our current government and the political apathy of the people of this country. Meaning NO oc, NO gun rights, NO anything. Welcome to socialism, enjoy your stay.
    You think so? You think when the time comes and the new democrat-socialist government comes to your door and asks for you gun[I was going to make gun singular, but cmon, who owns just one gun?!] with force, you're going to give it up? I think when that day comes, the second Civil War will erupt and we the true citizens will finally awake to take this country away from those who have scarred it and restore it to its true Federalist-Republitarian glory. However, I do believe it will take such an egregious act for it to happen. Real citizens don't want to go to war with their goverment, however, our founding fathers have already said it is inevitable. So it is a matter of when not if.
    We cannot escape the inevitable.

    "Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life; second, to liberty; third, to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can."

    -- Samuel Adams [bad mofo quotes and he brewed beer... friggin sweet]
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    Tyrants come in all shapes and sizes, as do those who do their bidding. Anyone who tells you that the threat of tyranny is long over, is either a fool, an enemy, or BOTH.

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    Custodian wrote:
    compmanio365 wrote:
    Because this is what is going to happen to America in 25 years or less given our current government and the political apathy of the people of this country. Meaning NO oc, NO gun rights, NO anything. Welcome to socialism, enjoy your stay.
    You think so? You think when the time comes and the new democrat-socialist government comes to your door and asks for you gun[I was going to make gun singular, but cmon, who owns just one gun?!] with force, you're going to give it up? I think when that day comes, the second Civil War will erupt and we the true citizens will finally awake to take this country away from those who have scarred it and restore it to its true Federalist-Republitarian glory. However, I do believe it will take such an egregious act for it to happen. Real citizens don't want to go to war with their goverment, however, our founding fathers have already said it is inevitable. So it is a matter of when not if.
    We cannot escape the inevitable.

    "Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life; second, to liberty; third, to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can."

    -- Samuel Adams [bad mofo quotes and he brewed beer... friggin sweet]
    I'm sorry, but I do think it's going to happen. It happened in England, it happened in Australia, it will most likely happen here. There are a majority of people who don't give a god damn about anything except collecting a paycheck and going home in the evening. Some people don't even care about that as long as the drug dealer comes around once in a while to deliver a fresh batch.

    Sorry my friend, but those of us that care about things like liberty, freedom, and our rights are in the minority these days, and I can't help but think we are already too far gone to turn back. Myself? I'll be fighting to the bitter end should that day come, but I don't expect anyone I know outside of the people on these forums and one other to stand with me for their freedom or their rights. They will just calmly give in to any demands that are made of them in order to stick their heads in the sand and ignore everything going on in the world around them.

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    Wow. That video was awesome. The people are just so happy to have someone watching over them. I can't wait till it hits the U.S., oh wait, it already has. I think the next step needed is a camera in every room of every house. That would cut down on all kinds of illegal acts that take place behind closed doors.
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    Colorado Firearm law.
    http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/colorado/
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    What kills me most is how ineffectual this really is. Let's say some hoodlum mugs an old lady. Within seconds the CCTV 'cop' calls the bobbies to report the crime and they arrive a few minutes or so later at which time the hoodlum is home playing XBox. With no CCTV, within seconds the victim or witnesses call the bobbies and they arrive a few minutes or so later at which time the hoodlum is home playing XBox.

    I also like the lady from the B&D Council. What will make them 'feel' safe, not what will 'make' them safe. I am guessing a lot of Brits are not happy about it. That was only a sample of 2.
    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Beau wrote:
    SNIP The people are just so happy to have someone watching over them.
    I'm guessing they're happier with the illusion thatthe police will protect them.The area being watched by police just furthers the warm and fuzzy illusion.

    That one lady's point about no respect came closer than perhaps she knew. Gee, I wonder why the criminals have no respect?
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Thundar wrote:
    LEO 229 wrote:
    How is this OC or even gun related??
    Firearms are the citizens last defense against tyranny. Gun owners are the last line of defense for our constitutional Republic. Learning to identify tyranny is very important to the defenders of freedom. The Virginia Sea and motto are instructive:

    http://www.netstate.com/states/mottoes/va_motto.htm

    Sic Semper Tyrannis

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    This is an OC board... Big Brother stuff and the "man is watching me" has nothing to do with guns.

    Should I start posting here about the IRS? What about the President and his authorization on wire tapping? Maybe even red light cameras.

    We need to stay on track and keep it gun related. There are a few members here that want to chat about big brother and that is NOT what this forum was created for.

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    I think that everyone here is comfortable with the owner's/administrtors'/modertors' opinions on topicality.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    Thundar wrote:
    LEO 229 wrote:
    How is this OC or even gun related??
    Firearms are the citizens last defense against tyranny. Gun owners are the last line of defense for our constitutional Republic. Learning to identify tyranny is very important to the defenders of freedom. The Virginia Sea and motto are instructive:

    http://www.netstate.com/states/mottoes/va_motto.htm

    Sic Semper Tyrannis

    Thundar
    This is an OC board... Big Brother stuff and the "man is watching me" has nothing to do with guns.

    Should I start posting here about the IRS? What about the President and his authorization on wire tapping? Maybe even red light cameras.

    We need to stay on track and keep it gun related. There are a few members here that want to chat about big brother and that is NOT what this forum was created for.
    You might be an officer in VA, but here you are JUST A MEMBER.

    It's not your job to police these forums.

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    The problem is that people are too stupid to understand the difference between "Feeling safe" and "Being safe"

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    dougwg wrote:
    You might be an officer in VA, but here you are JUST A MEMBER.

    It's not your job to police these forums.
    Like many others.. you have jumped to the wrong conclusions.

    I am only suggesting we stay focused and on topic.

    This thread is not gun related at all.


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    Yes, this is an open carry forum and I try to stick to the topic at hand in all of my posts, but, like anyone else, do stray from time to time.

    I do like to think of this forum, though, as a collection of liberty and freedom-minded individuals and am not only willing to discuss other aspects of our freedom and liberty (of which, OC is a very important part), but I am also happy that others do post on topics related to liberty and freedom from other aspects as well as this is the only forum I regularly read and post to.

    I think the "General Discussion" section is the most appropriate section on this forum for posts related to other aspects of our freedoms.

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    dougwg wrote:
    The problem is that people are too stupid to understand the difference between "Feeling safe" and "Being safe"
    Safety is a tyrant's tool; no one can be against safety.

    I wonder if now the cop will be using his 'back-channel' to complain about how we might look to lurkers?

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    vrwmiller wrote:
    Yes, this is an open carry forum and I try to stick to the topic at hand in all of my posts, but, like anyone else, do stray from time to time.

    I do like to think of this forum, though, as a collection of liberty and freedom-minded individuals and am not only willing to discuss other aspects of our freedom and liberty (of which, OC is a very important part), but I am also happy that others do post on topics related to liberty and freedom from other aspects as well as this is the only forum I regularly read and post to.

    I think the "General Discussion" section is the most appropriate section on this forum for posts related to other aspects of our freedoms.
    I can appreciate your dedication to visiting just one site. I visit three and would never want all three to be a collective and joined into one.

    It is unfortunate that a fewgun owners hereare also anti-government or view everything as a conspiracy. While they are entitled to their views... there are forums that cater to that way of thinking.

    Far too often this board had become a combination of open carry gun rights, anti-cop, and anti-government.

    Now it is true that the rights of gun owners are being threatened by "The Government that make the rules" and "The police that enforce the rules" but I have seen many things posted that were not even gun related.

    These type topicsdo nothing more than en-flame the other members and spreadhatred. I do not believe that is good for the forum at all. With all this desire to "educate the public on OC"... imagine the outsiders and media stopping in and reading this propaganda.

    Members asking if it is OK to kill a cop!!The government is going to chip us!! Is this really what you want OCers to be known for?

    I am only pointing out that there has been an increasing trend to post non OC or gun related topics.There are not enough moderators and we can self moderate being that we are adults. Some people need to be given a nudge that they are getting off topic. I amguilty of this at times. There isno harm in letting a member know.

    Just because YOU like to read non OC or gun related stuff here does not mean the rest of the members do.

    Maybe you can join...

    http://antipolicemisconduct.meetup.com/

    http://anti-government.com/

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    vrwmiller wrote:
    Yes, this is an open carry forum and I try to stick to the topic at hand in all of my posts, but, like anyone else, do stray from time to time.

    I do like to think of this forum, though, as a collection of liberty and freedom-minded individuals and am not only willing to discuss other aspects of our freedom and liberty (of which, OC is a very important part), but I am also happy that others do post on topics related to liberty and freedom from other aspects as well as this is the only forum I regularly read and post to.

    I think the "General Discussion" section is the most appropriate section on this forum for posts related to other aspects of our freedoms.
    I can appreciate your dedication to visiting just one site. I visit three and would never want all three to be a collective and joined into one.

    It is unfortunate that a fewgun owners hereare also anti-government or view everything as a conspiracy. While they are entitled to their views... there are forums that cater to that way of thinking.

    Far too often this board had become a combination of open carry gun rights, anti-cop, and anti-government.

    Now it is true that the rights of gun owners are being threatened by "The Government that make the rules" and "The police that enforce the rules" but I have seen many things posted that were not even gun related.

    These type topicsdo nothing more than en-flame the other members and spreadhatred. I do not believe that is good for the forum at all. With all this desire to "educate the public on OC"... imagine the outsiders and media stopping in and reading this propaganda.

    Members asking if it is OK to kill a cop!!The government is going to chip us!! Is this really what you want OCers to be known for?

    I am only pointing out that there has been an increasing trend to post non OC or gun related topics.There are not enough moderators and we can self moderate being that we are adults. Some people need to be given a nudge that they are getting off topic. I amguilty of this at times. There isno harm in letting a member know.

    Just because YOU like to read non OC or gun related stuff here does not mean the rest of the members do.

    Maybe you can join...

    http://antipolicemisconduct.meetup.com/

    http://anti-government.com/
    Are you suggesting that I am anti-cop and/or anti-government? If so, that couldn't be further from the truth. I am pro-freedom and pro-liberty. If what cops and/or government are doing is infringing upon the citizen's freedom and/or liberty, that is what I have issue with.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    Far too often this board had become a combination of open carry gun rights, anti-cop, and anti-government.

    Now it is true that the rights of gun owners are being threatened by "The Government that make the rules" and "The police that enforce the rules" but I have seen many things posted that were not even gun related.
    I think that the majority of the "anti-cop" and "anti-government" stuff you see is pretty much "anti abuse of power by cop" and "anti-government legislative BS bills" and not really "anti-cop" or "anti-government". There may be a few blatant flames, but the majority of the posts are about specific events by specific cops, or about specific attempts by specific stupid legislation.

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    It seems to me that the most off-topic posts on this thread have been the ones discussing whether this thread is off-topic. If we get back to the topic of the thread, I think we'll be just fine.

    The moderators will do their job and lock this thread if you're right, LEO 229 (and probably would've done it already).

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    These systems cost money. A lot of it. It won't be long before the city sells "air time" between the reminders that citizens are being watched.

    "This neighborhood's safety is brought to you by Preparation H. For long-lasting relief from the inevitable results of daily government intrusion, try Preparation H."

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    vrwmiller wrote:
    Are you suggesting that I am anti-cop and/or anti-government? If so, that couldn't be further from the truth. I am pro-freedom and pro-liberty. If what cops and/or government are doing is infringing upon the citizen's freedom and/or liberty, that is what I have issue with.
    You and I have met.. so No... I do not think that is the case and I was joking with you.I did give a wink too so that should be taken into consideration. We need to lighten up just a little. :P

    I understand the need to discuss freedom and liberty... Believe it or not... we have the same views but mine may not be to the same extreme. I have a much different perspective and understand the need for certain activity.

    This post is about cameras talking to the people.... We have cameras in high crime areas ofDC and theywere not even being monitoredtill this past November.

    Please note that I said HIGH CRIME AREAS.... When the Government starts putting them in neighborhoods where crime is lowor non existent.. I would be the first to complain. This is a waste of money. I am not so much worried about being monitored... my shades are open nightly if you want to look and and see me cleaning my guns in the family room.

    I happen to agree with camerasin high crime areas as it isan alternativeto putting a cop on every corner to try to curb crime in the location. Now it would be far worse to havethat copthere 24/7 who could intimidate and harass the people that live there... right?

    So which is the lesser of the two evils???

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