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Obama supports the second amendment

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packingdressagerider wrote:
Yeah, anytime Hillary says "I know you may not believe it, but it's true" you know she is lying. Actually, if her lips are moving you know she is lying. I believe this is as true as her being named after Sir Edmund Hillary.
 

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Thundar wrote:
tarzan1888 wrote:
Obama says;

"I think there is an individual right to bear arms, but it's subject to commonsense regulation"


Translation..........This is the kind of arm his commonsense regulation wants you to own;



(In nonworking order of course)



Tarzan

No trigger lock

No possibility of ammo serialization

No possibility of microstamping

No, this firearm would be far too dangerous for Obamastan.
Not to mention that it doesn't have a fingerprint reader that only allows the owner to shoot it.

Oh, and wouldn't be considered a "destructive device" for having a bore over .5"?
 

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Thundar wrote:
tarzan1888 wrote:
Obama says;

"I think there is an individual right to bear arms, but it's subject to commonsense regulation"


Translation..........This is the kind of arm his commonsense regulation wants you to own;



(In nonworking order of course)



Tarzan

No trigger lock

No possibility of ammo serialization

No possibility of microstamping

No, this firearm would be far too dangerous for Obamastan.

This is true, that is why it is only allowed in "nonworking order"



Tarzan
 

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imperialism2024 wrote:
possumboy wrote:
If something like this is ever tried; hopefully a few people will remember the Virginia State Seal:

SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS

Tens of thousands of little Wacos... :shock:
I would hope it would ever get to that extent. I think incidents in the hundreds would galvanize the 80 million or so legal gun owner's in this nation and the several millions others who are not gun owners but understand why the 2nd Amendment is important into effective political action. Or maybe the thought of the alternative and what it would do to this nation and our way of life is just too frightening to want to even consider it.
 

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deepdiver wrote:
imperialism2024 wrote:
possumboy wrote:
If something like this is ever tried; hopefully a few people will remember the Virginia State Seal:

SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS

Tens of thousands of little Wacos... :shock:
I would hope it would ever get to that extent. I think incidents in the hundreds would galvanize the 80 million or so legal gun owner's in this nation and the several millions others who are not gun owners but understand why the 2nd Amendment is important into effective political action. Or maybe the thought of the alternative and what it would do to this nation and our way of life is just too frightening to want to even consider it.
I'd tend to agree with you there, except for the current emphasis on "terrorism". Have next year's GWB replacement spouting off about all of the domestic terrorist "cells" in the country, and I believe you'd have most of those 100 million gun owners turning in their guns at the nearest PD. Maybe I'm too pessimistic about the cluelessness and mob mentality of the sh**ple, and I hope that I am.
 

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imperialism2024 wrote:
deepdiver wrote:
imperialism2024 wrote:
possumboy wrote:
If something like this is ever tried; hopefully a few people will remember the Virginia State Seal:

SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS

Tens of thousands of little Wacos... :shock:
I would hope it would ever get to that extent. I think incidents in the hundreds would galvanize the 80 million or so legal gun owner's in this nation and the several millions others who are not gun owners but understand why the 2nd Amendment is important into effective political action. Or maybe the thought of the alternative and what it would do to this nation and our way of life is just too frightening to want to even consider it.
I'd tend to agree with you there, except for the current emphasis on "terrorism". Have next year's GWB replacement spouting off about all of the domestic terrorist "cells" in the country, and I believe you'd have most of those 100 million gun owners turning in their guns at the nearest PD. Maybe I'm too pessimistic about the cluelessness and mob mentality of the sh**ple, and I hope that I am.
I also hope that you are being overly pessimistic, although I have expressed the same doubts as to the fortitude of the citizenry. How sad that our distrust of our government has reached the point that we even have such discussion or harbor such doubts on any level. I wish I could share my father's view that the government is too inept to effectively act in such a manner.
 

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tarzan1888 wrote:
Obama says;

"I think there is an individual right to bear arms, but it's subject to commonsense regulation"


Translation..........This is the kind of arm his commonsense regulation wants you to own;



(In nonworking order of course)



Tarzan
That's funny as hell! I think they'd want us to have reproduction Muskets, nothing with rifeling. LOL I'm sure there would be restrictions on getting 1F or Fg which is the slowest burning or any of the other stuff like 4F which is fast burning.
 

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Actually, I doubt they'd allow replicas either. In the UK, apparently determined criminals (i.e. the ones gun controllers pretend don't exist) are converting replica arms to fully-functioning ones.
 

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imperialism2024 wrote:
Actually, I doubt they'd allow replicas either. In the UK, apparently determined criminals (i.e. the ones gun controllers pretend don't exist) are converting replica arms to fully-functioning ones.
That can't be happening because it is illegal, duh. And if someone tried it would be picked up on one of the CCTV cameras everywhere and the bobbies would say, "stop, or I'll say stop again" to the bad guys.
 

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deepdiver wrote:
imperialism2024 wrote:
Actually, I doubt they'd allow replicas either. In the UK, apparently determined criminals (i.e. the ones gun controllers pretend don't exist) are converting replica arms to fully-functioning ones.
That can't be happening because it is illegal, duh. And if someone tried it would be picked up on one of the CCTV cameras everywhere and the bobbies would say, "stop, or I'll say stop again" to the bad guys.

I was watching a video the other day that say even their Olympic Team has to leave the country to pratice.

It would not surprise me if the Replicas were banned also.
 

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deepdiver wrote:
imperialism2024 wrote:
Actually, I doubt they'd allow replicas either. In the UK, apparently determined criminals (i.e. the ones gun controllers pretend don't exist) are converting replica arms to fully-functioning ones.
That can't be happening because it is illegal, duh. And if someone tried it would be picked up on one of the CCTV cameras everywhere and the bobbies would say, "stop, or I'll say stop again" to the bad guys.
Whoops, sorry for stepping out of line there. I forgot that there also aren't any mass shootings at college campuses, because it's against school policy to have guns there.

My bad... :cry:
 

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possumboy wrote:
deepdiver wrote:
imperialism2024 wrote:
Actually, I doubt they'd allow replicas either. In the UK, apparently determined criminals (i.e. the ones gun controllers pretend don't exist) are converting replica arms to fully-functioning ones.
That can't be happening because it is illegal, duh. And if someone tried it would be picked up on one of the CCTV cameras everywhere and the bobbies would say, "stop, or I'll say stop again" to the bad guys.

I was watching a video the other day that say even their Olympic Team has to leave the country to pratice.

It would not surprise me if the Replicas were banned also.
Yeah, there was a big broohaha several years ago about England's olympic biathalon team having to leave the country to practice (I'm thinking it was even before the ban when it first came up because of new restrictions that effected something about the .22s they used or it may have been about the amount of ammo they had - I just don't remember and am too lazy to google it) ... IIRC they went to a Scandanavian country but I don't recall which one. It got people really excited for about 30 seconds, then some socialist said "for the children" and "for safety" and they all shut up and got back in line with the Agenda.
 

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imperialism2024 wrote:
deepdiver wrote:
imperialism2024 wrote:
Actually, I doubt they'd allow replicas either. In the UK, apparently determined criminals (i.e. the ones gun controllers pretend don't exist) are converting replica arms to fully-functioning ones.
That can't be happening because it is illegal, duh. And if someone tried it would be picked up on one of the CCTV cameras everywhere and the bobbies would say, "stop, or I'll say stop again" to the bad guys.
Whoops, sorry for stepping out of line there. I forgot that there also aren't any mass shootings at college campuses, because it's against school policy to have guns there.

My bad... :cry:

I was watching 48 hours the other night and it was about a US body builder/ steroid importer seller, who ran from the law for killing his partner in the US and was finally found after shooting a Bobby in Jolly old England. He had handguns and reloading supplies galore.

If an American can go to England and get that stuff, you know the locals can.



Tarzan
 

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Not sure if tjhis was posted before, but regarding Obama wanting to have the Federal government ban all concealed carry, from the Chicago Tribune
By David Mendell
Chicago Tribune staff reporter
February 20, 2004
This story contains corrected material, published Feb. 21, 2004.

<snip>

All of the candidates, except Hynes, said they opposed allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons. Hynes and Chico said states, not the federal government, should regulate the matter. "I consider this an issue for the states to decide, not the federal government," Chico said.

Obama disagreed. He backed federal legislation that would ban citizens from carrying weapons, except for law enforcement. He cited Texas as an example of a place where a law allowing people to carry weapons has "malfunctioned" because hundreds of people granted licenses had prior convictions. "National legislation will prevent other states' flawed concealed-weapons laws from threatening the safety of Illinois residents," Obama said.
 

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"National legislation will prevent other states' flawed concealed-weapons laws from threatening the safety of Illinois residents," Obama said.

The man is a typical Chicago party machine hack politician. His comment is like saying banning cigarettes nationwide will prevent black lung disease in southern Illinois coal miners. For purposes of my blood pressure and therefore my longevity, is that man is elected I may have to not even follow politics for 4 years. If the American people are retarded enough to vote this douche into office, we deserve all that follows. People who think Bush has infringed on their rights haven't seen nothin' yet. Barak will make Leningrad look enlightened, homey and liberty loving.

The only state I visit where I flat feel unsafe is Illinois. Even if I had an Illinois CCW I would not feel safe in IL. IL is generally speaking the anus of the midwest. I say this as someone who lived there in the north, central and southern parts of the state at different times for about 19 of my first 27 years of life and currently live within minutes of the state.
 
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