Asked to cover-up in a restaurant?

• Maintain an air of confidence.
• Bea little cheerful; keep a lighthearted expression.
• Keep a friendly smile chambered, and several more ontop of the stack.
• Dress neatly; maintain grooming.
• Condition Yellow works to detect more than criminal trouble.
• Be ready with several practiced phrases to handle inquiries.
• Be outgoing.Ask friendly questions of the staff that show an interest in them as a person, beyond their function.
• Always carry a voice-recorder.

VA requires open carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol for on premmise consumption. How many people have been asked "Hey, can you cover that thing up" or "Hey, your gun is sticking out"?

I"m especially interested in anyone asked by a manager that was not well educated on VA law.

Purpose here is to see if managers prefer concealed carry to cut back on concerned patrons.

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I have open carried literally acouple hundred times in restaurants in VA. Literally.

I have been asked exactly once to remove the gun or leave. Exactly once. (This exactly once is also the only time I have ever been asked to remove the gun or myself from any business.)*

Separate from that exactly once, I have encountered exactly twowaitstaff whospoke about feeling nervouswith my OC. Exactly twne of them, a busboy,gave melooks of concern mixed with antagonism at various points during my visit. The other served me again ona fewvisits after,saying nothing.

*Citizen's Tips for Successful OC Ambassadorship:

• Maintain an air of confidence.
• Bea little cheerful; keep a lighthearted expression.
• Keep a friendly smile chambered, and several more ontop of the stack.
• Dress neatly; maintain grooming.
• Condition Yellow works to detect more than criminal trouble.
• Be ready with several practiced phrases to handle inquiries.
• Be outgoing.Ask friendly questions of the staff that show an interest in them as a person, beyond their function.
• Always carry a voice-recorder.

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HKshooter wrote:

VA requires open carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol for on premmise consumption. How many people have been asked "Hey, can you cover that thing up" or "Hey, your gun is sticking out"?

I"m especially interested in anyone asked by a manager that was not well educated on VA law.

Purpose here is to see if managers prefer concealed carry to cut back on concerned patrons.

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In such an instance, would you be legal in concealing regardless of if you had a permit or not since your on private property and have the permission of the owner?

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Xeni wrote:

HKshooter wrote:

VA requires open carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol for on premmise consumption. How many people have been asked "Hey, can you cover that thing up" or "Hey, your gun is sticking out"?

I"m especially interested in anyone asked by a manager that was not well educated on VA law.

Purpose here is to see if managers prefer concealed carry to cut back on concerned patrons.

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In such an instance, would you be legal in concealing regardless of if you had a permit or not since your on private property and have the permission of the owner?

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Nope. The law prohibits carrying concealed weapons in establishments that serve alcohol for consumption. I believe the only exception is the actual proprietor. No citation, so I'm risking a penalty flag, I know.

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In such an instance, would you be legal in concealing regardless of if you had a permit or not since your on private property and have the permission of the owner?

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Xeni wrote:

In such an instance, would you be legal in concealing regardless of if you had a permit or not since your on private property and have the permission of the owner?

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excellent question?



could this be a way around the resturant loophole?

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I believe the reason he asked the question is for when the RB is repealed. He wants to know if anyone has come across a restaurant manager requesting that a customer cc vice oc as a means of gauging their general comfort level during your dining experience. After the repeal you will have a choice. He would like to make his choice based on a consensus of eatery managers, either way.

To the original poster: After the repeal, just OC. If the manager requests cc, then you can legally comply if you wish to still dine there.

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A year ago at Tony's in Manassas, one of the first responding officers instructed us to cover our weapons, if I recall correctly. We didn't. Moments later, other responding Manassas police officers apparently browbeat the owner into asking us to leave. We did.

In the spring and summer of 2000, I took some "advanced" handgun classes that spanned a couple of weekends. One of my fellow students was a NOVA police officer with whom several of us were already acquainted. When we went out to lunch, he instructed us to carry concealed in the restaurant.

Those are the only two times I can recall being asked or instructed to cover in a restaurant.

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In such an instance, would you be legal in concealing regardless of if you had a permit or not since your on private property and have the permission of the owner?

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Xeni wrote:

In such an instance, would you be legal in concealing regardless of if you had a permit or not since your on private property and have the permission of the owner?

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The owner or his agent cannot change the law - restaurants are off limits for concealed carry. The fact that it is private property is irrelevant - remember,it is illegal to conceal carry on private property without a permit except for limited exceptions - the owner cannot change that even for himself on his own property!!

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