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    From Rep. Sam Hunt (the ONLY one of three local elected officials to get back to me!)

    The bill did note even get a hearing.  It is dead. 
    State Representative Sam Hunt
    22nd District (Olympia, Lacey, Tumwater & Northern Thurston County)
    438-B Legislative Building
    Olympia, WA 98504-0600
    Chair, State Government and Tribal Affairs Committee
    Appropriations Committee
    Select Committee on Environmental Health
    Damn... I really need to start paying attention things I read late at night here. I guess this is old news. Sorry

    Sometimes things don't click...

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    A littlemore info on a few others....

    Legislative Update from Olympia 15 February 2008







    Another quick format change: In the �Bill Status� segment, we�ve
    separated bills that are still running from those that have died. That
    lets the reader quickly focus on the bills needing attention, while the
    rest is there for historical purposes. After the chamber cut-off this
    week, we�ll drop reporting on the �dead� bills.

    Keep in mind, the Washington legislature works on a biennium basis �
    each legislative period is two years long, broken down into two annual
    sessions. We are in the second session (year) of the 60^th Legislature.
    All bills filed in the first session (2007 in this case) remained
    available for consideration in the second session (2008). At the end of
    this year, ALL bills not passed die. When the 61^st Legislature convenes
    in January 2009, all bills must be filed/refilled, and all will receive
    a new bill number.


    Chamber cut-off is Tuesday, 19 February. At that point, all bills must
    pass their original chamber or be considered dead for the session. Next
    Wednesday we�ll see the cycle start over again, with more committee
    hearings on bills, House Bills in the Senate, Senate Bills in the House.
    They have 10 days to conduct public hearings on bills from the other
    chamber. The next cut-off date after next Tuesday�s chamber cut-off is
    Friday, 29 February.

    Both the House and Senate are tentatively scheduled to work over the


    SBs 5456, 5465 and 6322 passed out of the Senate, the first two on a
    49-0 vote and SB 6322 on a 45-3-1 vote. They now go to House Judiciary.
    HB 3095 passed out of House Appropriations to House Rules. SB 6763
    awaits action in Senate Rules, and HBs 3131 and 3148 (along with 3095)
    sit in House Rules awaiting a floor vote. SB 5456 and HB 3148, while
    nominally addressing different aspects of alien (non-U.S. citizen)
    firearm possession in Washington, have similar end results. SB 5456 is
    the better version.


    No new gun-related bills were introduced this week, however�

    We reported the filing of HB 3359, the ammunition encoding
    (serialization) bill last week. We also noted that the bill was filed
    just before the policy committee cut-off, and thus too late for
    legislative action this year (unless Democrat leadership decided to
    break their own internal rules and push the bill). The NRA subsequently
    issued an alert, asking members to contact their legislators (Senator
    and two Representatives) and ask them to oppose this, or similar, bills.
    While HB 3359 SHOULD be dead for the year, it never hurts to give our
    elected �leaders� a little positive reinforcement. We�re repeating the
    NRA Alert below:

    Ammo Serialization (Registration) Bill Proposed in Washington State!

    Tuesday, February 12, 2008

    /Please Contact Your State Legislators Today!/* *

    Legislation has been proposed in Olympia that poses a very serious
    threat to our Right to Keep and Bear Arms and it has to be stopped

    House Bill 3359
    sponsored by State Representatives Al O�Brien (D-1), Brendan Williams
    (D-22), Dennis Flannigan (D-27), and Jamie Pedersen (D-43), would
    require that all handgun ammunition manufactured or sold in Washington
    to be coded with an individual serial number, and entered into a
    statewide database at the time of sale. Encoded ammunition would be
    registered to the purchaser and would include the date of transaction,
    the purchaser�s name, date of birth, driver�s license number, and the
    serial number of the ammunition.

    This dangerous bill needs to be stopped now. HB3359 only serves to
    harass law-abiding gun owners, as criminals are not likely to purchase
    ammunition through legal channels. Please contact your State Senator and
    your State Representative today and respectfully urge them to oppose
    HB3359. Contact information for your State Legislators can be found by

    (Remember: It NEVER hurts to remain in close contact with your
    legislators. If they recognize your name as soon as you call or write,
    more the better. Even if they disagree with you, they�ll pay closer
    attention because they know you�re interested. That�s what grassroots
    lobbying is all about.)


    At this time, no gun bills are scheduled for public hearing in either
    chamber. As bills pass out of each chamber, expect committee schedules
    to be amended to add bills. SSB 5456 is a good example: it should be
    scheduled for a public hearing in House Judiciary sometime in the next
    ten days.


    The following bills have been filed for the 2007-08 biennium:

    Bill # Subject Sponsor Status

    HB 3095 Involuntary commitment Lantz (D-26) H. Rules.


    HB 3131 Weapons on school grounds Lantz (D-26) H. Rules


    HB 3148 Alien firearm licenses Moeller (D-49) H. Rules


    SB 5456 Alien firearm licenses Morton (R-7) H. Jud.


    SB 5465 Restoration of gun rights Schoesler (R-9) H. Jud.


    SB 6322 Weapon definition-courthouses Kohl-Welles (D-36) S. Rules


    SB 6763 NICS reporting Tom (D-48) S. Rules


    Bills that failed to pass required cut-off:

    HB 1011 Alien firearm licenses Moeller (D-49) DEAD

    HB 1014 Mandatory safe storage Moeller (D-49) DEAD

    HB 1026 Gun show loophole Williams (D-22) DEAD

    HB 1126 CPL extension Morrell (D-25) DEAD

    HB 1633 Prohibit confis. during emerg. Roach (R-31) DEAD

    HB 1764 Prohibit stun guns for students Lantz (D-26) DEAD

    HB 2036 Shooting range protection Van De Wege (D-24) DEAD

    HB 2168 Gun safety education program Chase (D-32) DEAD

    HB 2177 Weapon definition Moeller (D-49) DEAD

    HB 2268 Weapons at schools Lantz (D-26) DEAD

    HB 2706 Notification � hunting land Blake (D-19) DEAD

    HB 2956 Possession while hunting Haler (R-8) DEAD

    HB 3225 Possession on DFW reg. lands Orcutt (R-18) DEAD

    HB 3229 Weapons in courthouses Warnick (R-13) DEAD

    HB 3359 Handgun ammunition encoding O�Brien (D-1) DEAD

    SB 5197 Gun show loophole Tom (D-48) DEAD

    SB 5516 Prohibit confis. during emerg. Stevens (R-39) DEAD

    SB 5791 School gun safety program Sheldon (D-35) DEAD

    SB 6304 Firearm possession on campus Kohl-Welles (D-36) DEAD

    SB 6526 Involuntary commitment Kline (D-37) DEAD

    SB 6686 CPLs for military members Roach (R-31) DEAD

    SB 6841 Bans firearms on coll. campuses Murray (D-43) DEAD

    SB 6859 Possession on DFW-reg. lands Morton (R-7) DEAD

    SB 6860 Firearm possession on campus Roach (R-31) DEAD

    SB 6861 Expands CPL reciprocity Roach (R-31) DEAD

    SB 6864 CPL military reciprocity Roach (R-31) DEAD

    Key to abbreviations: S. = Senate, H. = House, Jud = Judiciary, Ag/NR =
    Agriculture & Natural Resources, Approp. = Appropriations, Educ =
    Education, HiEd = Higher Education, K-12 = Education, Lab/Comm = Labor,
    Commerce, Research & Development, (X) = X-files (supposedly dead for
    this session)

    What�s the difference between �support if amended� and �oppose unless
    amended?� On �support if amended,� we would prefer to see the bill
    improved, but will support it if necessary in its current form. �Oppose
    unless amended� means that unless the bill is amended to be acceptable
    to us, we oppose the bill in its current form.



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    Trigger Dr wrote:
    We are in the second session (year) of the 60th Legislature.
    All bills filed in the first session (2007 in this case) remained
    available for consideration in the second session (2008). At the end of
    this year, ALL bills not passed die. When the 61st Legislature convenes
    in January 2009, all bills must be filed/refilled, and all will receive
    a new bill number.
    Ahhhh. Cool. I didn't know that aspect of it. Great! :celebrate I'll shut up now...

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