Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 57

Thread: CLINTON WANTS A GUN SUMMIT. NY Daily News

  1. #1
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Washington Island, across Death's Door, Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    9,193

    Post imported post

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/...un-summit.html

    Another new wrinkle from Hillary Clinton today: she wants a presidential summit on gun control.

    That came up in the Q-and-A session of her stop in De Pere, after a woman asked about dealing with shootings such as the Northern Illinois University carnage.

    Clinton started with the line she rolled out a couple days ago about recognizing that there is “no conflict” between letting lawful gunowners have weapons and keeping guns out of the hands of bad guys and the mentally ill.

    She went on to propose a solution to coming up with a solution for the problem — kind of like her plan to come up with a plan for fixing another politically difficult problem, Social Security.

    “I believe we really should have a summit where everybody comes together on all sides of this issue,” Clinton said. “Let’s figure out how we can be consistent with the Second Amendment, which I wholeheartedly support, and do more to keep people safe. [Safety is a tyrant's tool; no one can be against safety.]

    “I think we can do that, but it’s going to require us all to maybe give a little and understand the point of view of the other people,” she said. “That’s something I would do as President to really bring people together.”

    “We know we need better background checks and we know we’ve got to have mental health information in there,” she said.

    - Michael McAuliff


  2. #2
    Campaign Veteran deepdiver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Southeast, Missouri, USA
    Posts
    5,974

    Post imported post

    Better background checks? Who's fault is it if they are not thorough now? The gubmit's! And what is this about all sides of the issue? Are we going to have a summit on the MSM and 1st Amendment rights? How about the 4th Amendment? I would LOVE to see a summit on the government's abuse of the 10th Amendment. Nope, just a summit on one constitutional right, the one she really doesn't like, the one that threatens her because she knows that an armed populace will never allow her fascist/socialist agenda be fully recognized. Stupid @$#&!
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

  3. #3
    Regular Member Thundar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Newport News, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    4,961

    Post imported post

    Is she selling a bridge or what?
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitableand let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come . PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

  4. #4
    Founder's Club Member - Moderator longwatch's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Northern Fauquier Co, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    4,297

    Post imported post

    Somehow the term BOHICA comes to mind.

  5. #5
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    , ,
    Posts
    8

    Post imported post

    longwatch wrote:
    Somehow the term BOHICA comes to mind.
    I give up...what doe BOHICA mean?


  6. #6
    Campaign Veteran Dutch Uncle's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Virginia, USA
    Posts
    1,715

    Post imported post

    Bend over, here it comes again.

  7. #7
    Founder's Club Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    No longer in Alexandria, Egypt
    Posts
    2,798

    Post imported post

    Sounds like the time to bury guns is coming...

  8. #8
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Catasauqua, Pennsylvania, USA
    Posts
    3,047

    Post imported post

    BobCav wrote:
    Sounds like the time to bury guns is coming...
    Anyone have the pic of the MiG buried in the sand in Iraq?

  9. #9
    Founder's Club Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    , Virginia, USA
    Posts
    387

    Post imported post

    BobCav wrote:
    Sounds like the time to bury guns is coming...
    You must remember that once it is time to bury your weapons it is more important that ever to dig them up.

  10. #10
    Campaign Veteran deepdiver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Southeast, Missouri, USA
    Posts
    5,974

    Post imported post

    I say we put the democratic leadership in a decomissioned C-24 and bury it in the desert then we don't have to get our guns dirty.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

  11. #11
    Founder's Club Member - Moderator longwatch's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Northern Fauquier Co, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    4,297

    Post imported post

    The only problem with that plan is some unsuspecting future generation will dig it up and find....
    Attached Images Attached Images

  12. #12
    Campaign Veteran deepdiver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Southeast, Missouri, USA
    Posts
    5,974

    Post imported post

    Laff - reminds me of an old joke about an LEO in a very rural area coming up on a charter bus badly wrecked on the side of the road. In the field a little way from the bus is a freshly turned long mound of dirt. On the side of the bus is the remants of a banner reading "The Hillary Express". While the LEO is looking over the accident scene an old farmer rolls up on his tractor, shuts it down and walks up to the LEO and starts talking to him. The farmer confirms that the bus wrecked the evening before. LEO asks him why he didn't call the sheriff's office. Farmer says that it was late and all the people were dead anyway, so he just got the backhoe and dug a pit there in the field and threw them in and didn't want to bother the officer's who probably had live people to worry about. The LEO is shocked (on several levels) and asks, "They were dead? All of them? Are you sure??" "Well," says the old farmer, "a few of them said they weren't, but, well you know how them politician types lie."
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

  13. #13
    Campaign Veteran
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    , Illinois, USA
    Posts
    778

    Post imported post

    only a few days ago both Obama and Clinton were saying how they supported the 2nd amendment.

    BTW, it appears the NIU murderer was released from government service twice, once from the army, and once by Indiana, for not being stable. why wasn't his name in the list of nut cases already?

  14. #14
    Regular Member Thundar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Newport News, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    4,961

    Post imported post

    The Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) has a monthly meeting. The meeting is open to the public. Neither Hillary nor Obama have the courage to attend such a meeting with gun owners.


    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitableand let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come . PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

  15. #15
    Regular Member Thundar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Newport News, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    4,961

    Post imported post

    Doug Huffman wrote:
    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/...un-summit.html

    Another new wrinkle from Hillary Clinton today: she wants a presidential summit on gun control.
    I too would like a summit on shooting tighter groups, especially from my Swedish Mauser.
    That came up in the Q-and-A session of her stop in De Pere, after a woman asked about dealing with shootings such as the Northern Illinois University carnage.
    Get rid of victim disarmament zones and we have reduced the problem.
    Clinton started with the line she rolled out a couple days ago about recognizing that there is “no conflict” between letting lawful gun owners have weapons and keeping guns out of the hands of bad guys and the mentally ill.
    Gee thanks Hill, you really think we are allowed to have guns, wow.
    She went on to propose a solution to coming up with a solution for the problem — kind of like her plan to come up with a plan for fixing another politically difficult problem, Social Security.

    “I believe we really should have a summit where everybody comes together on all sides of this issue,” Clinton said. “Let’s figure out how we can be consistent with the Second Amendment, which I wholeheartedly support, and do more to keep people safe. [Safety is a tyrant's tool; no one can be against safety.]
    Which do we repeal first then, the NFA or the 1968 GCA?
    “I think we can do that, but it’s going to require us all to maybe give a little and understand the point of view of the other people,” she said. “That’s something I would do as President to really bring people together.”
    What does give a little mean? Does it mean eroding God given rights enumerated in the constitution?
    “We know we need better background checks and we know we’ve got to have mental health information in there,” she said.
    I think that is a very good idea for all politicians, and I agree that we need your mental health information.

    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitableand let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come . PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

  16. #16
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Joliet, Illinois, USA
    Posts
    237

    Post imported post

    Clinton started with the line she rolled out a couple days ago about recognizing that there is “no conflict” between letting lawful gun owners have weapons and keeping guns out of the hands of bad guys and the mentally ill.

    Letting us have guns? **** you, bitch. The constitution says 'shall not be infringed'. Learn to read, ****.

  17. #17
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    , ,
    Posts
    129

    Post imported post

    “I think we can do that, but it’s going to require us all to maybe give a little and understand the point of view of the other people,” she said. “That’s something I would do as President to really bring people together.”
    OK. Cool.

    Your side can "give" me back my full, un-abridged rights by repealing the NFA and the GCA - and all the other regulations that these spawned - and I willendevor to understand how difficult it is for you to harbor a point of view is based on illogical emotions whichshould never be made into a law of any sort.

    Deal?

    Doncha love how these people like to phrase this crap as "coorperation" and "give and take" when they don't even have one single item they have considered to conceed to their political opposition.

  18. #18
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Washington Island, across Death's Door, Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    9,193

    Post imported post

    Please fix your attribution, I quoted a news article quoting Hag Hillary.

  19. #19
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    , ,
    Posts
    129

    Post imported post

    Sorry Doug, I didn't mean to make it look that way.

    My bust.

  20. #20
    Campaign Veteran Nelson_Muntz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Manassas, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    697

    Post imported post

    Toad wrote:
    BobCav wrote:
    Sounds like the time to bury guns is coming...
    You must remember that once it is time to bury your weapons it is more important that ever to dig them up.
    BATF will use ground penetrating radar screening neighborhoods before the door to door search. Burying is out, especially if you have little or no land.

    Plain sight caching would be better. It would allow immediate hands on, and in the privacy of your home, when necessary. Plain sight caching will likely cause the jackboots to tear up your home "knowing you got one around here somewhere". To preclude that you can leave your sacrificial gun in the ziplock inside the toilet tank. They will find that quickly, think you are stupid, and move on satisfied. Some of you already practice this in "the empty cereal box on top of the fridge", etc. The trick is to expand it to a place large enough to hide multiple long guns, or large loads of ammo.

  21. #21
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    4 hours south of HankT, ,
    Posts
    5,121

    Post imported post

    Nelson_Muntz wrote:
    Toad wrote:
    BobCav wrote:
    Sounds like the time to bury guns is coming...
    You must remember that once it is time to bury your weapons it is more important that ever to dig them up.
    BATF will use ground penetrating radar screening neighborhoods before the door to door search. Burying is out, especially if you have little or no land.
    Wow. That's paranoid. Probably true, but paranoid.

  22. #22
    Founder's Club Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Fairfax Co., VA
    Posts
    18,766

    Post imported post

    The fact that she is saying there is anissue that needs solved is all I need to hear.

    Its the gun-grabbers who are creating the issue.

    She necessarily validates their side of the argument if she says there is an issue that needs to be addressed. No matter how smoothly she phrases it, no matter how much high-road spin she puts on it,she is validating the gun-grabbers.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

  23. #23
    Founder's Club Member - Moderator longwatch's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Northern Fauquier Co, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    4,297

    Post imported post

    Tomahawk wrote:
    Nelson_Muntz wrote:
    Toad wrote:
    BobCav wrote:
    Sounds like the time to bury guns is coming...
    You must remember that once it is time to bury your weapons it is more important that ever to dig them up.
    BATF will use ground penetrating radar screening neighborhoods before the door to door search. Burying is out, especially if you have little or no land.
    Wow. That's paranoid. Probably true, but paranoid.
    In my opinion its a lot easier and a more effective way to keep your guns is by writing letters, calling your elected officials, and recruiting people, than by digging holes. Less blisters too.
    :celebrate

  24. #24
    Founder's Club Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Fairfax Co., VA
    Posts
    18,766

    Post imported post

    longwatch wrote:
    SNIP Less blisters too.
    I knew the real reason would come out sooner or later.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

  25. #25
    Founder's Club Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Fairfax Co., VA
    Posts
    18,766

    Post imported post

    longwatch wrote:
    In my opinion its a lot easier and a more effective way to keep your guns is by writing letters, calling your elected officials, and recruiting people, than by digging holes. Less blisters too.
    Right!

    Now, Tomahawk, being the bright fellow that he is, would recruit others to dig his holes, while writing letters calling his elected officials...impolite names.

    I would too, butit would start a better fight if I accuse him of it first.Plus, I'm not bright enough to think of recruiting others to dig my holes.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •