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I've been OCing in Safeway for months without any issues whatsoever. No one has ever said a word. Well, I needed to get some grocery shopping done today, so I put on my 1911 in my duty-style belt holster and walked in the door like always.
After I few minutes, I noticed a woman shopper giving me the 'death eyes' as picked out some beef. A few minutes later, a young store manager walked up to me and said "I'm sorry sir, only police officers are allowed to carry guns in our store. Could you take it out to your car?" I asked him, "Is that policy posted somewhere?" He replies, "No, but it is corporate policy. I can get you that information if you like." I told him, "I'd appreciate it."
Well, I leave my cart, go disarm myself outside (I hate leaving weapons in my vehicle), and walk back in. I wait for him by the manager's office. 5 to 6 minutes later, he walks out holding a yellow sticky-note. "Well, I couldn't actually find it, but here's the number of our head of security, Denver division." I ask him, "So, the policy isn't posted anywhere, and you can't find it in your own information?" He says, "Unfortunately, yes."
He continues by explaining, "A women complained that she didn't feel comfortable." I came right back with, "Well, I don't feel comfortable being asked to disarm myself and deprived of my ability to protect myself." He says, "I believe we provide a safe shopping experience here for all our customers." "Unfortunately, I don't feel that way. I didn't see any security guards anywhere in the store, and there were no metal detectors to verify that ONLY police officers are carrying sidearms in your store. If you're going to ask me to disarm, you're thereby taking the duty to protect ALL of your customers from an armed or otherwise dangerous threat. I don't feel like you're doing this, and I don't feel safe in your store."
He says, "Well, sir, a woman said that she was afraid of you, and wasn't comfortable. It's company policy." I continue, "Well, I don't feel comfortable either. Is that a legitimate concern of yours? This other shopper's concern clearly was."
From this point forward, his only answer was to call the number on the sticky note. The whole experience was reasonably frustrating, considering I've been carrying in Safeway for so long without any issues. The manager was polite for the most part, despite being fairly ignorant/incompetent at providing the information I required. I paid for my groceries and left, although I had considered just abandoning my cart when I went to the parking lot to disarm.
This was the Safeway on 28th & Arapahoe. I'll refrain from posting names & numbers, as I assume that's frowned upon here.
I've been OCing in Safeway for months without any issues whatsoever. No one has ever said a word. Well, I needed to get some grocery shopping done today, so I put on my 1911 in my duty-style belt holster and walked in the door like always.
After I few minutes, I noticed a woman shopper giving me the 'death eyes' as picked out some beef. A few minutes later, a young store manager walked up to me and said "I'm sorry sir, only police officers are allowed to carry guns in our store. Could you take it out to your car?" I asked him, "Is that policy posted somewhere?" He replies, "No, but it is corporate policy. I can get you that information if you like." I told him, "I'd appreciate it."
Well, I leave my cart, go disarm myself outside (I hate leaving weapons in my vehicle), and walk back in. I wait for him by the manager's office. 5 to 6 minutes later, he walks out holding a yellow sticky-note. "Well, I couldn't actually find it, but here's the number of our head of security, Denver division." I ask him, "So, the policy isn't posted anywhere, and you can't find it in your own information?" He says, "Unfortunately, yes."
He continues by explaining, "A women complained that she didn't feel comfortable." I came right back with, "Well, I don't feel comfortable being asked to disarm myself and deprived of my ability to protect myself." He says, "I believe we provide a safe shopping experience here for all our customers." "Unfortunately, I don't feel that way. I didn't see any security guards anywhere in the store, and there were no metal detectors to verify that ONLY police officers are carrying sidearms in your store. If you're going to ask me to disarm, you're thereby taking the duty to protect ALL of your customers from an armed or otherwise dangerous threat. I don't feel like you're doing this, and I don't feel safe in your store."
He says, "Well, sir, a woman said that she was afraid of you, and wasn't comfortable. It's company policy." I continue, "Well, I don't feel comfortable either. Is that a legitimate concern of yours? This other shopper's concern clearly was."
From this point forward, his only answer was to call the number on the sticky note. The whole experience was reasonably frustrating, considering I've been carrying in Safeway for so long without any issues. The manager was polite for the most part, despite being fairly ignorant/incompetent at providing the information I required. I paid for my groceries and left, although I had considered just abandoning my cart when I went to the parking lot to disarm.
This was the Safeway on 28th & Arapahoe. I'll refrain from posting names & numbers, as I assume that's frowned upon here.
