Kevin Jensen
State Researcher
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Common Sense 101: Guns don't belong in plain view in classrooms
Tribune Editorial
Article Last Updated:02/23/2008 01:39:28 PM MST
Take a moment to put yourself in the shoes of a teacher at the University of Utah or Salt Lake Community College:
You are standing in front of a classroom as students - 25, 50 or 100, depending on the class - walk in and take their seats. As one student sits down, he takes a revolver from a holster and places it in his lap or on the desk, his hand near the trigger. Or he leaves it in a shoulder or belt holster, in plain sight and within easy reach.
What would you do?
HB473 would clarify that concealed-carry permits also give holders a right to openly carry loaded guns in public places, including public-school campuses, at colleges and universities, in sports stadiums. Yes, and in hospitals, public libraries and the unsecured areas of airports.
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[/size] Openly carrying a weapon is a blatant form of intimidation, whether or not the person carrying it intends to use it.
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8346161
Common Sense 101: Guns don't belong in plain view in classrooms
Tribune Editorial
Article Last Updated:02/23/2008 01:39:28 PM MST
Take a moment to put yourself in the shoes of a teacher at the University of Utah or Salt Lake Community College:
You are standing in front of a classroom as students - 25, 50 or 100, depending on the class - walk in and take their seats. As one student sits down, he takes a revolver from a holster and places it in his lap or on the desk, his hand near the trigger. Or he leaves it in a shoulder or belt holster, in plain sight and within easy reach.
What would you do?
That scenario is quite likely if House Bill 473 is passed by the Utah Legislature. Gun rights advocates say the bill does not change existing law, which they interpret as allowing concealed-carry permit holders to carry firearms in plain view. Attorney General Mark Shurtleff's opinion is that existing law could be interpreted to allow or prohibit permit holders to carry weapons openly.IF the student removed the weapon, (for any other reason than for self defense) he/she deserves to be pimp/bitch slapped. If he leaves it holstered, he/she deserves a thumbs up!
I like Mark Shutleff, but that sounds like a packaged, cover his ass response.
HB473 would clarify that concealed-carry permits also give holders a right to openly carry loaded guns in public places, including public-school campuses, at colleges and universities, in sports stadiums. Yes, and in hospitals, public libraries and the unsecured areas of airports.
We wonder whether legislators who favor this bill have thought through the possible consequences of allowing, even encouraging, people to openly carry a loaded weapon into a classroom or a basketball game between rival schools, as this billwould do.The right that they have always had, even before the introduction of this bill.
It would be impossible for a teacher or classmate to know the armed person's intent or his state of mind. In the heated atmosphere of a close game, even normally level-headed fans have been known to get violent. Add the sight of loaded guns to that mix, handy for quick response, even illegal use, and it's not hard to imagine the possible outcome.A safer environment, perhaps?
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[/size][size="-1"]An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein
[/size] Openly carrying a weapon is a blatant form of intimidation, whether or not the person carrying it intends to use it.
Gun-rights lobbyist Clark Aposhian poo-poos as worry-mongering the concern of officials at the U. over potential classroom disruptions. We disagree. Their worry is reasonable. Call it Common Sense 101.Yeah, my wife is pretty intimidating!
If legislators doubt the implications of HB473, they should put themselves in the position of a teacher confronted by an armed student. Gun advocates might advise a concerned teacher to get a gun of her own. But is a classroom really the right place for a showdown?It dosen't matter what they write about Clark, as long as they spell his name correctly.
It may not be the right place for a showdown, but I am sure the students would love to be able to defend themselves against the "Cho's" of the world.