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    PINOLE - A heavy afternoon rain blurs the sky as three black SUVs pull up across from a one-story stucco house on Pinole Valley Road. The man inside just turned 60 and recently was placed under a psychiatric hold as a suicide risk, says one of the five state agents. Records show he owns 15 guns, including two assault weapons. Under state law, he must give them up for five years. He hasn't.

    "This guy could have a pure disdain for police,' says Special Agent Supervisor John Marsh. [Emphasis added]

    What they find, after he lets them in, are handguns, rifles and shotguns strewn about several rooms, others locked away in a garage gun safe. There are 58 weapons in all, many of them loaded, Marsh says. The man is agitated, but the agents settle him down. An hour later, they shuttle the firearms to their vehicles, barrels up, then drive off.

    Such seizures from "armed and prohibited' gun owners are growing more common, officials say, after the launch last year of a new state computer system that links gun ownership records with a database of people banned from keeping them.

    The results of an early sampling revealed nearly 70,000 people statewide, and more than 15,000 in the Bay Area - including 150 in Solano County - either kept their guns

    in violation of state law, or records of their sale or transfer were never entered properly. The system, created from 2002 legislation, now holds nearly 11,000 names, although the actual number of armed and prohibited people is several times greater, officials say.

    Federal and state law bans gun ownership for people convicted of a variety of felonies. It also bars drug addicts, those convicted of domestic violence misdemeanors or subject to restraining orders.

    Those convicted of violent misdemeanors can't own or keep firearms for 10 years. People taken into custody as a danger to themselves or others must give up guns for at least five years.

    According to a study comparing people convicted of violent misdemeanors before and after a gun ban went into effect for them in 1991, those denied the purchases of handguns had a 25 percent to 30 percent lower risk of committing later gun crimes, said Wintemute.

    Among those who have needed educating are some local police departments, agents said. During the summer sweep, suspects often had given up their guns to police, but the agencies failed to log them in the system. Some courts also have lagged in entering data on restraining orders and mental holds, said Attorney General Jerry Brown.

    "We're taking in guns ourselves, but the main idea is to multiply your force by working closely with local government,' said Brown.

    "Citizens have a right to bear arms, but not citizens adjudicated insane, or mentally incompetent, or guilty of a felony. We're aggressively enforcing it.'

    Sam Paredes, executive director of Gun Owners of California, said he hopes the technology puts an end to a nettlesome problem. Too often, he said, people unaware that past convictions barred them from owning guns would buy one and not be stopped, then face state enforcement. Paredes said the group has "no real objection' to the system.
    Armed and prohibited

    Over the past year, the state Department of Justice has built a database of subjects considered 'armed and prohibited.' The numbers reflect only those added to the database. Officials say the actual number is likely several times higher.

    Statewide: 10,795*

    Alameda County: 681

    Contra Costa County: 452

    Santa Clara County: 320

    San Francisco County: 131

    San Mateo County: 178

    Solano County: 150

    *represents 17,025 handguns and 1,172 assault weapons
    Source: California Department of Justice database beginning in 2007



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    Better hurry up & grab all you can. SCOTUS might make them all legal again.

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    Love the gun registration database. Confiscation because we want you to be safe. Psychiatric hold??? Possible suicide??? Didn't do it, but we'll take your guns for 5 years anyways. Sorry if you are now vulnerable to attack by thugs, but we think you are safer without guns.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come …………. PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

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    Suicide by cop always works and the cadet SWAT members need the experience. Aim your Makita at them and all your problems will be over.

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