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first off by "mentally ill" i guess i should be more clear but i did'nt feel like writing out a detailed description of who that would be.. obviously someone who's depressed or something would'nt qualify..
i specifically had in mind people who have Paranoid Delusions, Schizophrenia, are Incompetent, or otherwise have lost touch with reality.
We already deny the "rights" of people who are declared Incompetent, this is not a new concept.
Im simply stating i do not believe this to be unconstitutional.. remember we pass laws (ideally) that are constitutional.. you do not need specific wording to SUPPORT the law.. only wording not specifically forbidding it, in order for it to be constitutional.
I am not a expert or a lawyer, in fact no one seems to be on the constitution because it's debated all the time.
on a personal note i dont know if you have ever had any dealings with someone with paranoid delusions or schizophrenia, i pray you never do..
a friend of mine i grew up with developed schizophrenia when he was 19, it's a genetic defect usually only shows up between the years 18-25.. if you make it to 26 without it developing you're usually safe.
we did everything together his mother also has schizophrenia, in fact she is what they call paranoid schizophrenic which is quite common that the two walk hand in hand.
she believes the fbi are tapping her phone.. a neighbor a few houses down brought their company van home 3 days in a row.. she claimed it was the fbi, she claimed she sees me on tv & movies, she claims there are no female actresses except in old movies.. anything made in the last 20 years is actually male actors dressed like a woman.. she thinks her ex husband is outside in the bushes with a rifle waiting to kill her when she steps outside.. so she would'nt leave the house (oh btw she still goes to sears apparently it's safe to goto sears), she says the radio talks to her, here dog died.. she claims the neighbors poisoned it.. never mind the fact it's a inside dog only going out for 15mins at a time to goto the bathroom, she claims my brother is a police informant.
oh ya and she does'nt take her meds.. why? because she thinks they're trying to poison her.. how does she get away with it? because she dumps them in the toilet so they're not around with full bottles, then she tells her case worker what she wants to hear.. she knows how to manipulate people.
oh did i mention she took a box cutter to her ex husband?.. he lived though.
my friend was a normal person.. then when he turned 19 he started acting weird.. at that same time i kinda lost touch with him he got heavily into drugs..
i figure he must have been trying to self medicate.. it did'nt work.. he got off drugs been in and out of mental institutions several times, stabbed a cop with a pen when they tried to arrest him for body slamming his sister.
i went to visit him once.. he just laid in bed.. no sheet.. chain smoking and not much else huge ash tray filled to the brim.. he would'nt talk to me, i had'nt seen him after that for a while.. apparently he claims the cops came and dragged him out of the house for no reason and threw him in a mental institution.. again.. he got medicated. and i could see some of my old friend coming back.. he was still talking off the wall sometimes.. he was talkative but could'nt really do anything he use to.. he's tired.. can't focus.. and other then talking and sleeping is'nt able to do much else.. his mother fought with the doctors to get his meds changed.. he slipped back into a vegetable.. last i heard he tends to get angry and violent if anyone says anything to him..
it's hard to see a shell of my former friend, i can tell you though i would never EVER hand him a gun.. not even a unloaded one, i would'nt even hand him a large knife.
people with Schizophrenia are unstable.. even with medication they are not what i would call "normal" in the sense they still have episodes, and ain't it funny the voices are never nice?, did you know it's not just voices they can here it can actually be visual as well, he told me once he see's demons and dead people.
Now i realize the constitution is the constitution.. you take it all or nothing.. you can't simply ignore the parts you dont like.
with that said i see nothing in the constitution that says someone who is mentally defective can bear guns, in fact i dont see anything in the constitution that mentions the mentally ill at all, obviously the "all men are created equally" can't be true or there would not be murders or other criminals unless ALL men are criminals and murders.. just like some "MEN" have mental defects, and most people are'nt born deranged.
there for it is my opinion it is not unconstitutional to restrict firearms from "mentally ill (see my definition above)"
also i dont find the government declaring NRA a terrorist is even remotely a realistic or fair comparison .. there is already a system in place for declaring the mental illnesses i already stated.