Manka Cat
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As I posted before in the Wyoming section, I've been kicked out of one liquor store, and asked to leave another. Both times I tried to explain my position, and the law, (since neither person seemed to realize this was legal. I left after only a few seconds though, so as not to be trespassing, and have not returned. (For those of you living in Cody or Wyoming, Discount Liquors by the Maverick asked me to leave. The other store was new, I don't remember the name. It's behind Burger King.)
So, now I shop at Eastgate Liquors, since they are the only other place that doesn't have a bar built in with no distinguishable separation between bar/store. I have been in there at least five times now, dealt with three different women, and have never had a hard time. They are a bit more pricey, but I shop there anyway, so I don't have to disarm.
I was in there earlier today for a bottle of wine, and it was one of the women I dealt with before. She asked for ID, and I gave it to her, commenting she carded me a few days ago. She looked at my ID, and said "Oh right. The guy with the gun".
After a moment she says, "By the way, my manager say you on the camera last time, and doesn't think carrying in a liquor store is a good idea. We have a lot of women working here, and they will think you are to rob them."
This is of course, at least in my opinion, one of the dumbest responses you can get. If I was going to rob you, would I shop pleasantly with my fiance and keep the gun in plain sight for a while before checking out???
I said to her, "Well, hopefully everyone here will get to know me, and learn that I'm not here to hurt them, just to shop. Your manager may not feel its a good idea, but it is legal, and I'm not going to forfeit my right for the ease of others. If someone thinks I'm going to rob them, I'll deal with that when it happens, but I'm not here to hurt anybody. If your manager decides to make it store policy that no guns are allowed, I'll respect it, but I'll shop somewhere else, or at least only use the drive-through."
She asked if I was having some sort of problem that I needed a gun to deal with. I said no. Then I said, while paying, "I purposely shop here even though it's a little more expensive because I've carried in here before with no problem."
Hopefully that part gets back to her manager.
I also had an encounter at Wal-Mart (where I open carry regularly with no trouble so far by the way) with a cashier. She eyed it for several minutes while I was in line, (at least she noticed), and then carded me to buy a movie. I gave her my ID, and she said, "Yeah, you have to 17 to buy an R rated movie...." I said, "Oh, its ok. I'm 21." Then I paused, and hoping to break the tension about my gun a little added with a smile, "I do have a gun after all."
She looked at it again, and handed back my ID without even checking it. "That makes me nervous...."
"No need for that," I said. "If I was here to hurt someone, I wouldn't have it in the open, right?"
She said "Well, some people can be really crazy or messed up. Is that even legal?" This was my first time to get asked this. I said, "Yes, absolutely. Thats part of why I do it. No one seems to realize its legal."
"But not everywhere right?"
"No, not in government buildings, and not in all states. But in Wyoming it is."
She didn't say anything else, and I tried to make my voice gentle and comforting, but confidant, so she would believe I knew what I was talking about.
I'm still new to OC, and need to get more comfortable with it before I can respond as well as possible. I'm learning and getting better. Let me know how you guys thought I did, or what you think I should do different. I feel happy with my responses, but always wish I had been able to say more to educate the people I was talking to. Hopefully I don't find a "No Guns Allowed" sign next time I go to Eastgate.
As I posted before in the Wyoming section, I've been kicked out of one liquor store, and asked to leave another. Both times I tried to explain my position, and the law, (since neither person seemed to realize this was legal. I left after only a few seconds though, so as not to be trespassing, and have not returned. (For those of you living in Cody or Wyoming, Discount Liquors by the Maverick asked me to leave. The other store was new, I don't remember the name. It's behind Burger King.)
So, now I shop at Eastgate Liquors, since they are the only other place that doesn't have a bar built in with no distinguishable separation between bar/store. I have been in there at least five times now, dealt with three different women, and have never had a hard time. They are a bit more pricey, but I shop there anyway, so I don't have to disarm.
I was in there earlier today for a bottle of wine, and it was one of the women I dealt with before. She asked for ID, and I gave it to her, commenting she carded me a few days ago. She looked at my ID, and said "Oh right. The guy with the gun".
After a moment she says, "By the way, my manager say you on the camera last time, and doesn't think carrying in a liquor store is a good idea. We have a lot of women working here, and they will think you are to rob them."
This is of course, at least in my opinion, one of the dumbest responses you can get. If I was going to rob you, would I shop pleasantly with my fiance and keep the gun in plain sight for a while before checking out???
I said to her, "Well, hopefully everyone here will get to know me, and learn that I'm not here to hurt them, just to shop. Your manager may not feel its a good idea, but it is legal, and I'm not going to forfeit my right for the ease of others. If someone thinks I'm going to rob them, I'll deal with that when it happens, but I'm not here to hurt anybody. If your manager decides to make it store policy that no guns are allowed, I'll respect it, but I'll shop somewhere else, or at least only use the drive-through."
She asked if I was having some sort of problem that I needed a gun to deal with. I said no. Then I said, while paying, "I purposely shop here even though it's a little more expensive because I've carried in here before with no problem."
Hopefully that part gets back to her manager.
I also had an encounter at Wal-Mart (where I open carry regularly with no trouble so far by the way) with a cashier. She eyed it for several minutes while I was in line, (at least she noticed), and then carded me to buy a movie. I gave her my ID, and she said, "Yeah, you have to 17 to buy an R rated movie...." I said, "Oh, its ok. I'm 21." Then I paused, and hoping to break the tension about my gun a little added with a smile, "I do have a gun after all."
She looked at it again, and handed back my ID without even checking it. "That makes me nervous...."
"No need for that," I said. "If I was here to hurt someone, I wouldn't have it in the open, right?"
She said "Well, some people can be really crazy or messed up. Is that even legal?" This was my first time to get asked this. I said, "Yes, absolutely. Thats part of why I do it. No one seems to realize its legal."
"But not everywhere right?"
"No, not in government buildings, and not in all states. But in Wyoming it is."
She didn't say anything else, and I tried to make my voice gentle and comforting, but confidant, so she would believe I knew what I was talking about.
I'm still new to OC, and need to get more comfortable with it before I can respond as well as possible. I'm learning and getting better. Let me know how you guys thought I did, or what you think I should do different. I feel happy with my responses, but always wish I had been able to say more to educate the people I was talking to. Hopefully I don't find a "No Guns Allowed" sign next time I go to Eastgate.